Standing up - AoO in D&D?

[Quasqueton]

Does standing up from the prone position provoke an attack of opportunity? Page 137 states that it does, but the chart on page 135 says it doesn't.

The table is incorrect; standing up from a prone position does provoke an attack of opportunity. And by the way, the Daredevil's nip-up ability should read "A Daredevil of 2nd level or higher can stand up from a prone position as a free action that does not provoke an attack of opportunity."

I don't play d20 Modern, but I do pay attention to updates and such to it for general ideas for D&D (and for tidbits on 3.5).

The above quote comes from the most recent Bullet Points article by Charles Ryan.

Standing up from prone provokes an AoO? It says the opposite in the D&D3 PHB. Is this just for d20M? Or is this an errata for D&D? Or a change for 3.5?

Quasqueton

 

[IceBear]

If I remember correctly from a past tripping thread, it's just D20 modern. I like the idea of standing up provoking an AoO (as it seems to fit the category of what causes an AoO) I think that being prone might be more common in D&D and thus cause more balance issues. Not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if 3.5 treated standing up the same as D20 Modern.

IceBear

 

[Darklone]

Ouch. I just remember that giant in a group of tripped enemies... he desperately needs Combat Reflexes

Hmm. But if you try to stand up as ME, get tripped again, you still can stand up again with the 2nd ME this round...

 

[Zhure]

I hadn't noticed this before, but d20 modern SRD does indicate standing up provokes an AoO.

I hope they change that. Tripping is used a lot by my group as-is. If it provokes AoO, they'll use it far more often.

Greg

 

[IceBear]

Like I said, I think that's why we haven't seen this change in D&D when D20 Modern was released - tripping just seems more common in D&D than D20 Modern and thus this could make things unbalanced. Thus, I'm unsure what they'll do in 3.5

IceBear

 

[Bauglir]

* Initiative A
A trips B, & attacks with improved trip

* Initiative B
B gets up [*AoO - A trips B & attacks *]
B gets up

*Initiative A
A trips B, & attacks with improved trip

...etc

I hope they don't make getting up provoke, as it will induce just this kind of cheesiness.

 

[IceBear]

I agree, but it's just that if you read what an AoO is supposed to be standing up just seems to meet that criteria perfectly. If I didn't know the rules and someone said drinking a potion in someone's threat range, moving, reading a scroll, etc all causes an AoO I would immediately think standing up does too.

Still, getting rid of cheesiness is more important than "making sense"

IceBear

 

[Murrdox]

You can always crawl away 5' and standup as a MEA, then ready an attack if the tripper comes next to you again. Eh, wait a second, I seem to remember a previous thread where it was decided that you can't combine a 5' step with the stand-up action - so in that case you wouldn't be able to do all that.

 

[RedSwan78]

No, Standing up from prone does NOT provoke an AoO.

There *is* a feat in the Swashbuckling Dragon Mag issue, called "Kick 'Em While They're Down" that allows you to make an AoO against anyone standing up from prone in your threatened area.

Now, the prone person *could* roll away 5 feet (5 foot step) and then use his Move Equivilent Action to stand up. Yes, you *can* combine the 5 foot move with a Move Equivilent Action. You aren't moving anywhere with the MEA, just standing up. So you *could* 5 foot move, stand up, and ready.

 

[Zhure]

Technically, one can't take a five-foot step while prone. Sure, I'd allow it, but you can only move while standing by strict reading of the rules in the PHB.
Greg