Standing up - AoO in D&D?

[Zhure]

I know this info isn't core, but here is something to add to the discussion:

Wither Limb in the BoVD says:
"Withered legs force a character to fall prone and make it impossible for her to move more than 5 feet per round."

This seems to suggest that with non-withered legs you could move more than 5 feet per round.

Quasqueton

Or the spell could be restating the standard effects of being prone.

 

[Hypersmurf]

As far as any rules-based quote has shown, one cannot move while prone

I'm sorry, I ust have missed the rules-based quote that says you can't move while prone. Would you please repost it?

The only move option mentioned EVER is to stand up.

The text of the prone condition reminds you that should you choose to stand up, it requires a MEA. It does not say that should you not exercise this choice, you are forever after confined to the same square.

The rules are written from the assumption that one has to stand up to move.

Justify your assertion as to the assumption of the rules.

I'll even accept a quote from Jonathan, Monte, or Skip admitting "Designer Intent".

Until and unless you can provide justification, I'll thank you not to refer to the interpretation Ki Ryn, Ranes and I support as a "house rule".

-Hyp.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Or the spell could be restating the standard effects of being prone.

If that's your position, then you're acepting that the "standard effects of being prone" allow a character to move five feet in a round without standing up.

Which is rather in contrast to your "the rules assume you have to stand up to move" interpretation.

-Hyp.

 

[Zhure]

A 5-ft step isn't part of normal movement.

 

[Hypersmurf]

A 5-ft step isn't part of normal movement.

Oh, I see.

All this time, I've been relying on grapple checks or escape artist checks to break free of grapples, because "a grappled character cannot move". And I could have just been taking a 5' step tog et away, because it's not covered by the "cannot move" clause.

The "cannot move" clause which, as has been noted, is conspicuously absent from the rules for the Prone condition.

-Hyp.

 

[Zhure]

You're being intentionally obdurate.

 

[Hypersmurf]

You're being intentionally obdurate.

Yes, but not for the sake of it.

You are presenting an unsupported opinion as an unambiguous rule. Not only that, but you insist on referring to any interpretation that differs from your own as a "house rule", which I find insulting.

I ask you again to support your contention that the rules "assume" someone may not move while prone, or else to admit that the rules do not specify either way, and that either interpretation is valid within the Core Rules.

-Hyp.

 

[Zhure]

On the contrary, I've stated a number of times that it's an implied rule.

 

[Aithne]

Ok, I know this is sort of out of place.

This is what I found, it is not core rules but is in Dungeon Magazine #84, module "Depths of Rage", page 69. Under the bridges paragraph it states "A PC who crawls across the bridge moves only 5 feet per round but has no chance of falling."

By this I am very inclined to allow one to crawl or "move while prone" at their speed as a full round action.

Does this seem like a good house rule? balanced?

My 2 cents.

Aithne

 

[Zhure]

Ok, I know this is sort of out of place.

This is what I found, it is not core rules but is in Dungeon Magazine #84, module "Depths of Rage", page 69. Under the bridges paragraph it states "A PC who crawls across the bridge moves only 5 feet per round but has no chance of falling."

By this I am very inclined to allow one to crawl or "move while prone" at their speed as a full round action.

Does this seem like a good house rule? balanced?

My 2 cents.

Aithne

Of course, that might mean that five feet per round is "normal" crawling (i.e., prone) movement.

Greg