Star Trek XI: Will they ever learn?

[Tanager]

LOL!

Yeah, let's start a Star Wars vs. Star Trek debate. I'll bet that's never happened before.

Ok, if a stormtrooper, who as we know can never hit anything, shoots a redshirt, who as we know can never NOT get hit, what happens?

 

[DaveMage]

Ok, if a stormtrooper, who as we know can never hit anything, shoots a redshirt, who as we know can never NOT get hit, what happens?

That would most certainly cause a rift in the space-time continuum.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

That would most certainly cause a rift in the space-time continuum.

Which is exactly how Star Wars vs. Star Trek vs. Babylon Five discussion occur.

 

[David Howery]

I was on Morpheus recently looking for trailers to download on SW ep. 3, when I ran across a wierd little film called "Space Battles"... it looks like some guy made it in his basement with 10 year old CGI equipment and breaks a zillion copyright laws, but it's pretty neat anyway. Basically, the guy took a lot of ships from ST, SW, BG, and B5, and had them all fight each other. So, you have Vipers and X-wings taking on Tie fighters, the Galactica and an Imperial star destroyer slugging it out, and Voyager flying over an AT-AT and torpedoing it...

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Ok, if a stormtrooper, who as we know can never hit anything,

Hey now. They didn't seem to have any trouble making skeletons out of Owen and Beru, and even made the hit on the Jawa sandcrawler sorta look like Tusken Raiders did it! The Keystone Kops of RotJ bear little resemblance to the old lady-vaporizing badasses of ANH.

 

[Ghostwind]

I was on Morpheus recently looking for trailers to download on SW ep. 3, when I ran across a wierd little film called "Space Battles"... it looks like some guy made it in his basement with 10 year old CGI equipment and breaks a zillion copyright laws, but it's pretty neat anyway. Basically, the guy took a lot of ships from ST, SW, BG, and B5, and had them all fight each other. So, you have Vipers and X-wings taking on Tie fighters, the Galactica and an Imperial star destroyer slugging it out, and Voyager flying over an AT-AT and torpedoing it...

I have that movie on my hard drive still. I wish the guy did a sequel. It was quite entertaining and quite pioneering for the time that it was created.

 

[Mark]

I have that movie on my hard drive still. I wish the guy did a sequel.

But the bloggers would tear him a new one for not honoring the canon of his first effort...

 

[Squire James]

Hey now. They didn't seem to have any trouble making skeletons out of Owen and Beru, and even made the hit on the Jawa sandcrawler sorta look like Tusken Raiders did it! The Keystone Kops of RotJ bear little resemblance to the old lady-vaporizing badasses of ANH.

Yeah, but the stormtroopers failed to hit anything on-screen, so how do we know the Tusken Raiders didn't really do everything after all? Obi-Wan might have lied about that to rile up Luke and all. I can imagine some scene back at the cantina:

VADER (counting out money): "Take out a random Jawa sandcruiser. Hm. Not evil enough. Well, take out my half-brother Owen's farm too!"

TUSKEN RAIDER: Unnngh? (Huh?)

VADER (shaking his fist): "Unlike my incompetent Jango Fett wannabes, your weapons actually seem capable of doing harm!"

 

[Welverin]

I think that what's being proposed for Trek XI is bad simply because if they are going into the past, and taking out all we know about Star Trek (especially from a character point of view) and working with a "blank slate", then why bother calling it Star Trek? Just make a cool SF movie.

Problem is it's hollywood, and the people out there assume that if something does bad that we weren't interest for some reason, never that it just wasn't any good. So if something does poorly they'll just make something different and hope that works istead of just trying to improve what they did before.

 

[Orius]

Hopefully, its the Romulan war idea and 2. that it doesn't follow the traditon of having odd numbered ST films lay huge eggs.

Well, Nemesis went poorly, so it kind of threw the pattern out of whack:

IV: Good
V: Suck
VI: Good
VII: Suck
VIII: Good
IX: Suck
X: Suck
XI: Maybe good?

And a Romulan War movie has been talked about for a while, so chances are good any future Trek movie will touch upon that. Hiring an outsider who knows little about Trek might not be the greatest idea, they did that with X, and I think that helped it to flop (well, the lame-ass plot certainly tanked the movie thouroughly too.) But then people who've worked on Trek for a while (I need not mention any names, since someone else will anyway) haven't exactly been delivering quality Trek lately, so fresh blood for a movie might help too.