Star Trek XI: Will they ever learn?

[Orius]

I was on Morpheus recently looking for trailers to download on SW ep. 3, when I ran across a wierd little film called "Space Battles"... it looks like some guy made it in his basement with 10 year old CGI equipment and breaks a zillion copyright laws, but it's pretty neat anyway. Basically, the guy took a lot of ships from ST, SW, BG, and B5, and had them all fight each other. So, you have Vipers and X-wings taking on Tie fighters, the Galactica and an Imperial star destroyer slugging it out, and Voyager flying over an AT-AT and torpedoing it...

Bah.

How can you mention this without posting a link?

 

[David Howery]

Bah.

How can you mention this without posting a link?

I found it on Morpheus, a file sharing system.... no link to post... I bet if you Google it, you could find it though....

 

[mojo1701]

Well, Nemesis went poorly, so it kind of threw the pattern out of whack:

IV: Good
V: Suck
VI: Good
VII: Suck
VIII: Good
IX: Suck
X: Suck
XI: Maybe good?

What happened to I, II and III? Besides, even within the Odd and Even categories, there's still varying levels of good and bad. I thought, out of the odds, III and IX were good enough.

Hiring an outsider who knows little about Trek might not be the greatest idea

Are you referring to director or writer? Because the writer, John Logan, stated that he IS a Trek fan, IIRC.

 

[DaveMage]

Are you referring to director or writer? Because the writer, John Logan, stated that he IS a Trek fan, IIRC.

I think he's referring to the hired writer for the next movie, who has said he hasn't been a fan.

 

[mojo1701]

I think he's referring to the hired writer for the next movie, who has said he hasn't been a fan.

Oh. I think he should be writing with someone else to keep track of him and proofread, etc.

 

[Ranger REG]

Its not a fault of being a prequel, but a fault of the writing.

Amen.

And Star Wars is better anyway, so nyah.

Meh. Even a village idiot can understand a simple story of good and evil. But try to make him understand why a lady who believe in peace had to die in order to preserve our tragic history so we can endure, he'd resign his title and take a short walk off a long cliff.

 

[Ranger REG]

Are you referring to director or writer? Because the writer, John Logan, stated that he IS a Trek fan, IIRC.

Was it Mr. Logan's idea to introduce Romulan's mysterious second-class citizens, the Remans? If that is the case and I run into him in Hawaii, I will first praise his work on Gladiator then I will literally and physically slap him upside his head for NEMESIS.

 

[mojo1701]

Was it Mr. Logan's idea to introduce Romulan's mysterious second-class citizens, the Remans? If that is the case and I run into him in Hawaii, I will first praise his work on Gladiator then I will literally and physically slap him upside his head for NEMESIS.

Not sure, but the story credits involve Brent Spiner and Rick Berman as well. Spiner gets the credit for anything Data-related (Spiner wanted Data dead, and I think it might've been his idea for the B-4 as well, but I'm not sure).

I didn't mind the Remans. I just think that he just made the relationships a bit confusing. That, and he attempted to remake Khan. Picard already has his Khan, and it's the Borg. I REALLY hated the super-strength of the Scimitar. (Massive) firing under cloak, shields WHILE cloaked, impenetrable cloak? No, thanks. You do NOT need to make a villain super-strong to show how hard it is to overcome him. Kirk overcame Khan, and he didn't even come face-to-face with him. It was all through audio and the first time he saw him in the movie through a viewscreen.

That being said, I did enjoy the final sequence (i.e. the Battle of the Bassen Rift), especially Troi finding the ship.

Edit: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/community/chat/archive/transcript/1355.html. StarTrek.com's transcript with John Logan (screenwriter)http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/community/chat/archive/transcript/1357.html.
StarTrek.com's transcript with Stuart Baird (Director).

Go nuts.

 

[Orius]

What happened to I, II and III? Besides, even within the Odd and Even categories, there's still varying levels of good and bad. I thought, out of the odds, III and IX were good enough.

Because I and III don't really fit the pattern. TMP is fairly slow paced for a movie, but it's really more of a character movie than an action film, and it does well in that regard. The Search for Spock is one of the better Trek films, despite being odd-numbered. Some might argue about that, but the movie does tie up the loose ends left at the end of Star Trek II pretty well, and it also intorduced some pretty major Trek elements, like the Klingon Birds-of-Prey, the Klingon language, etc.

 

[Ghostwind]

Bah.

How can you mention this without posting a link?

If you're really interested, I can probably stick it up on my site for everyone to download.