Star Wars - Dissapate Energy

[Magic Rub]

Star Wars - Dissapate Energy (RCRB)

O.K. Boys & girls I've been to the WotC Boards & seen the mess of a discussion they've had over there on this issue, now I want to know what the masses of Enworld think.

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Dissapate Energy Feat, the revised core rulebook version.

1. Is it too powerful? (if yes, then how would you change it?)

2. Is it only in affect when the energy damage is delt to your wound points, or is affective any time you would take energy damage ie) to your wound or your vitaility points?
Let me explain further...

Battle example A)
**in this example Dissapate Energy only comes into effect for wound point damage, this was suggested on the WotC Boards**

Luke is taking a royal beating from Han, they're fighting to the death for the affections of Leia. (Eew gross, & yes this is before Jedi) Han has Luke down to 12WP. Now for what ever reason Luke has the Dissapate Energy Feat. Han shoot's him again, but now that luke is into his WP's the reactive Dissapate Energy Feat comes into effect. Luke makes his save for Dissapate Energy, & instead of sucking 16 points of wound damage he gets back 8 VP making his new life total 12WP/8VP



Battle example b)
**in this example Dissapate Energy works as it seems to in the RCRB**

Luke is fighting with Han Solo, they're fighting to the death for the affections of Leia. (again yes this is before Jedi, & I know... eew gross!) Han has Luke down to 12WP/68VP. Now for what ever reason Luke has the Dissapate Energy Feat. Han shoot's him again, the reactive Dissapate Energy Feat comes into effect. Luke makes his save for Dissapate Energy, & instead of sucking 16 points of VP damage he gets back 8 VP making his new life total 12WP/76VP (lets say his total max VP's are 120???)

3. Should you be able to shoot yourself with say a blaster to get back VP?
4. Is the damage taken from a light sabre affected by this feat?

All of your H.O.'s to these & any other questions regarding the Dissapate Energy Feat would be cool.

 

[Magic Rub]

My thoughts are as follows

1. Yes this to powerfull [edit]if it works on VP's[edit], but I'm not sure how I would change it, or even if I should.
[edit] No this is not to powerfull if it works as 2 WP for 1 VP[edit]

2. I think it works as per battle example [edit] A [edit]

3. [edit] Yes you can shoot yourself.[edit] It's an abuse of the
power. I would rule that you would bypass you VP's & go directly to your WP [edit] & gain a DSP [edit]

4. Yes Light sabre damage does apply to this feat

As a point of note I don't allow this feat to work against stunning energy weapons.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

I think it is a little to easy to pull off, so I would up the DC to 5+damage dealt. (I felt the 10+ in OCR made the feat useless)

It only apllies to wound points , VP= not getting hit so you can't absorb energy that doesn't hit you. One of the designers confirmed this.

I'd let someone shoot themselves, but that's an auto crit and right to WP, so if they fail OUCH.

 

[Magic Rub]

It only apllies to wound points...

Do you have some type of proof to back you claim up? My players will bitch & moan till the cows come home if I can't prove this.

VP= not getting hit so you can't absorb energy that doesn't hit you.

That's kind of a week argument yes/no? So when VP's are expended do to damage, what you are essentially saying is that in place of taking the physical or WP damage (being actually struck by the damage source), the PC is instead expending an equal ammount of damage in Physical exhaustion or VP by avoiding the blow entirely. I see what you mean, & it sounds cool to me, but is this the officail rule?

One of the designers confirmed this...

Where can I find this please.


Keep it coming people this is totally helping!

 

[bwgwl]

Do you have some type of proof to back your claim up? My players will bitch & moan till the cows come home if I can't prove this.

JD said so on the WOTC boards. it's also in the "semi-official" FAQ over at swrpg network. (sorry, i forget the URL -- i got it through a link in a thread on the WOTC SW boards).

as far as my answers to your questions:

1) i don't think it's too powerful.
2) it only applies to wound damage.
3) no to shooting yourself. that's just cheesy. can you see any movie Star Wars character pointing a blaster at his temple in order to recover faster?
4) yes, lightsabers are energy-type weapons and thus affected.

 

[bwgwl]

i tracked down the link to the RCR FAQ pdf: (wow, now that's a lot of abbreviations )

http://www.swrpgnetwork.com/files/SWRPGFAQ07022002.pdf

 

[s0rn]

1) I don't know if it is too powerful, haven't had it come into play yet. If it seems to powerful, up the DC a bit, say 5+damage.
2) It does only apply to wounds according to the FAQ, and on the Wizard's boards.
3) According to the FAQ yes, you can shoot yourself. It goes automatically to wounds, so if you fail your save (don't forget a 1 automatically fails) then you are in a world of hurt.
4) Yes, lightsabers are energy-type weapons and thus affected.

 

[Skywalker]

1. Is it too powerful? (if yes, then how would you change it?)

No I don't think it is. Dissipate Energy will only come into play when a Jedi has no VP and so no force power. It will save his ass but it won't make him more powerful. I think of it as good yet unreilable energy armour.

On saying that if you find it is in practice try making it a DC+5 damage or a move action in their next round like Deflect.

2. Is it only in affect when the energy damage is delt to your wound points, or is affective any time you would take energy damage ie) to your wound or your vitaility points?

It only effects WP damage. This has been clarified by JD Wiker as an error and it has now been incorporated in the SW FAQ.

3. Should you be able to shoot yourself with say a blaster to get back VP?

First I would say no and ask that player not too. But if they made an issue of it then here is what I would do.

1. Any Jedi shooting themselves for more power gets a DSP each time. They are acting irrationally, out of fear and gambling their life.

2. Sitting their and shooting yourself is the same as shooting a helpless target and if the DE doesn't work I would apply the Coup de Grace rules (Fort save vs dam +10 or die). Remember a 1 is always a fail and the addition of the Coup de Grace rules makes things that much more risky.

4. Is the damage taken from a light sabre affected by this feat?

Yes it does though some people say it doesn't. Either way the idea becomes redundant when a Jedi gets about a +3d8 to damage.

 

[Jack Haggerty]

1. Do I think it's too powerful? ~~ Dunno. I haven't come across it in play yet.

2. Does it only work on WP's? ~~ Yes. OR at least, I think it should, regardless of what the Gurus say. Consider the new Armor mechanic... The DR only applies to Wound damage, because that's the only time your charadcter actually gets hit. VP's represent dodging, luck, etc. etc.

3. Could you shoot yourself to regain Vitality? ~~ Sure, but you run the risk of really hurting yourself, if you don't make the Save. Why not just stand in a small campfire instead? Or stick a fork in a toaster?

4. Can lightsaber attacks be dissapated? ~~ I don't see why not, they are energy weapons after all.

 

[333 Dave]

I agree that shooting yourself to use Dissipate energy would get you a Darkside Point. That is clearly using the Force for your own personal gain. Not to mention it is so not cool.