Star Wars Questions.

Darklance

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1. When was Rogue Squadron formed? I believe that there was only a red squadron as of Empire Strikes back (of which Wedge was red #2) Under what circumstances were they formed?

2. Why is there such a discrepancy in SW movement? In A New Hope, star destroyers were able to chase down the millennium Falcon. However, in Return of the Jedi we see starfighters flying circles around capital ships. Fighters also seem to be able to do this in the X-wing/Tie Fighter games I played years ago as well as the books.

3. I read Zhan's trilogy years ago and I remember at one point the Imperial Fleet is kept at bay by a planetary shield. How did this differ from the one at Hoth? Was it only a partial shield?

4.What is the corperate Sector and what is its relation with the empire?

Thanks for your help.
 
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1. The snowspeeder squadron on Hoth was technically the original Rogue Squadron; after the evacuation the pilots formed the X-Wing squadron under Wedge's command.

2. I think the Star Destroyers at the Battle of Endor may have been restricted by their tight formation; the starfighters clearly had the edge when it came to maneuverability. Although the Destroyers that were chasing the Falcon away from Tatooinen and at Alderaan could outrun Han and crew, he was able to send them for a loop near the asteroid field off of Hoth by doing some fancy flying.

3. The planetary shield mentioned in Zahn's trilogy was notably bigger than the one from Hoth; the shield surrounding Coruscant envelops the entire planet and is two layers deep.

4. The Corporate Sector is a region of space out near the Tingel arm of the galaxy that was given a limited amout of self-government through an agreement with the Emperor; while they could make their own laws and maintained their own security force (the Espos), they still had to respect Imperial decree.

-Nate
 

Darklance said:
2. Why is there such a discrepancy in SW movement? In A New Hope, star destroyers were able to chase down the millennium Falcon. However, in Return of the Jedi we see starfighters flying circles around capital ships. Fighters also seem to be able to do this in the X-wing/Tie Fighter games I played years ago as well as the books.


From the Return of the Jedi Script:
The copilot Nien Nunb chatters an observation.

LANDO
Only the fighters are attacking. I wonder
what those Star Destroyers are waiting for.

102 EXT SPACE - IMPERIAL FLEET 102

The giant Imperial Star Destroyer waits silently some distance
from the battle. The Emperor's huge Super Star Destroyer rests in
the middle of the fleet.

103 INT SUPER STAR DESTROYER - BRIDGE 103

Admiral Piett and two fleet commanders watch the battle at the
huge window of the Super Star Destroyer bridge.

COMMANDER
We're in attack position now, sir.

PIETT
Hold here.

COMMANDER
We're not going to attack?

PIETT
I have my orders from the Emperor himself. He
has something special planned for them. We
only need to keep them from escaping.

Just because you can go fast, doesn't mean you have to... or want to... go fast.
 


You might explain these discrapency this way:
Star Destroyers can become very fast (every space ship can, since you don`t slow down in space. I forgot the english word for it :) ), but they are not very maneuverable.
Starfighters are very maneuverable (low mass, good thrusters).

When fleeing from Tatooine, the Falcon had to leave some distance to the planet, to be able to hyperspace. The best way to get this distance is flying a straight line, so he did. The stardestroyers followed them the same line and had a similar acceleration. If he had made an evasive maneuver, the Falcon would have an advantage towards the destroyer, but since they wanted to go to hyperspace speed ASAP, they continued the straight line, allowing the star destoyers to come near. But this would become irrelevant if they could have gone to hyperspace...

Mustrum Ridcully
 

Star Destroyers can become very fast (every space ship can, since you don`t slow down in space. I forgot the english word for it ), but they are not very maneuverable.

You're right in the real world, but in Star Wars, the spaceships act like airplanes (at least the fighters). Lucas did that deliberately - modelling the starfighter fights after aerial dogfights.
 

Darklance said:
1. When was Rogue Squadron formed? I believe that there was only a red squadron as of Empire Strikes back (of which Wedge was red #2) Under what circumstances were they formed?

2. Why is there such a discrepancy in SW movement? In A New Hope, star destroyers were able to chase down the millennium Falcon. However, in Return of the Jedi we see starfighters flying circles around capital ships. Fighters also seem to be able to do this in the X-wing/Tie Fighter games I played years ago as well as the books.

3. I read Zhan's trilogy years ago and I remember at one point the Imperial Fleet is kept at bay by a planetary shield. How did this differ from the one at Hoth? Was it only a partial shield?

4.What is the corperate Sector and what is its relation with the empire?

Thanks for your help.

1) Rogue Squadron was originally Red Squadron in A New Hope. Only Wedge & Luke survived, though. But they re-appeared in ESB along with Hobbie Klivian and maybe one other guy that I think ended up in Rogue Squadron. They were later renamed in ROJ. Why? I dunno. Maybe it was a typ0, it was really meant to be 'Rouge' Squadron, and ended up as Rogue. But anyway, if you look at various different versions of the script (and versions of Star Wars - the novels vs. the movies and radio drama) they often having conflicting squadron names.

2) Because George Lucas isn't a physicist, not does he try to keep things very coherent from movie to movie. Star Destroyers should be faster than they are in RPGs, IMHO, because they clearly chased the Falcon on more than one occasion (in ANH and ESB) and gained on it. Maybe the Falcon was souped up between ESB and ROJ?

3) The Planetary shield in the Zahn novel worked the same way as in ESB. It keeps a certain amount of a planet's surface safe from orbital bombardment. So they have to land troops outside and have them march in and take out the generator. Some planets have more than one shield, presumably all over the planet they can turn on for total coverage.

4) The corporate sector was created by Brian Daley for the Han Solo adventure novels he wrote in the very early days of Star Wars. Essentially, it's a region of space that is dominated by megacorporations. IIRC, it's free of direct Imperial rule, but pays the Empire off to be 'free'. In essense, instead of the Imperials ruling the area and taxing people, they just get the money from the rulers of the Corporate Sector (called the Corporate Sector Authority, or CSA).

West End Games put out a rather thin hardcover on it about 10 years ago. (Here's a short review of that I wrote about 5 years ago...



"This is the companion sourcebook for two of Brian Daley's novels - Han Solo at Stars' End, and Han Solo's Revenge. There's a third, but it wasn't set in the Corporate Sector. (Aka the CSA - Corporate Sector Authority).

I've only read Han Solo at Stars' End. It's a pretty good book. (So was Han Solo and the Lost Legacy). So the sourcebook is pretty decent. My only real complaint, is that I would have prefered more on the CSA as a nation, with maps and such, rather than so much on it's political organization.

Anyay, this is a pretty decent book. A fair amount of decent starships (though the stats appear in Pirates and Privateers), and vehicles. I give this a B

Chapter One: Han and Chewie's Exploits - Basically a recap of the novels

Chapter Two: History of the Corporate Sector - What it sounds like

Chapter Three: The Corporate Sector - Information on the CSA, but not much. Mostly just the political structure.

Chapter Four: Security Division - Information on the structure of the CSA's police, as well as stats for typical Espos (why they are called Espos, I don't know)

Chapter Five: Stars' End - About a really high tech prison

Chapter Six: Authority Personalities - Characters from the novels that work for the CSA- stats, pictures, and backgrounds.

Chapter Seven: Personalities of the Sector - Like above but with characters that don't work for the CSA

Chapter Eight: The Fringe - Ditto, but for criminals. Most notably it features Jessa and Doc, two outlaw technicians

Chapter Nine: Starships - Stats for the Victory Star Destroyer, Invincible Heavy Cruiser, Marauder Corvette, Etti Lighter, Bulk Hauler, Trianii RX4 Patrol Ship, TIS Zeta 19, Warpod #2, Lady of Mindor Passenger Liner, Millennium Falcon, the CSA IRD and IRD-A, and the Z95 Headhunter

Chapter Ten: Vehicles - A bunch of vehicles. Mostly larger speeders, plus the ESPO Walker.

Chapter Eleven: Equipment - Some armor, some guns, some criminal items

Chapter Twelve: Droids - Stats for Bollux and Blue Max, as well as some misc droids

Chapter Thirteen: Aliens - Lorrdians (a human species), Kamarians (bugs), Lafrarians (birds), Lurrians (monkeys), Pho Ph'eahians (??), Rakririans (??), Sljee (??), Trianii (tigers), Tynnans (otters),

Chapter Fourteen: Creatures: - Howlrunners, Dravian Hounds, Dinkos, Bloodsniffers, and Ball Creatures"
 

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trancejeremy said:

Chapter Four: Security Division - Information on the structure of the CSA's police, as well as stats for typical Espos (why they are called Espos, I don't know)

Why they are called "Espos"...

The full name for the secuirty division is the "Corporate Sector Authority Police". This is quite a mouthful, so most people shorten it to the "Sector Police", which can be further abbreviated to "S-Po"... Or "Espo".

And remember, "Espo" is typically used as a mildly deragatory term by the people who have a good reason to avoid them... Like Han, Chewie and Lando.
 

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trancejeremy said:
2) Because George Lucas isn't a physicist, not does he try to keep things very coherent from movie to movie. Star Destroyers should be faster than they are in RPGs, IMHO, because they clearly chased the Falcon on more than one occasion (in ANH and ESB) and gained on it. Maybe the Falcon was souped up between ESB and ROJ?
I've been meaning to ask a technical question. Is it possible for an ISD to make small hyperspace jumps in order to catch up with a fast ship in realspace?
 

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Ranger REG said:

I've been meaning to ask a technical question. Is it possible for an ISD to make small hyperspace jumps in order to catch up with a fast ship in realspace?

Certainly, but it's difficult to do, since you have to engage the hyperdrive for such an incredibly short amount of time... You are bound to be less accurate.

Anyway, you see it happen in tactical situations at times in the novels... A ship, or fleet of ships drops out of hyperspace on the outside edge of a starsytem, and waits for something to happen by monitoring the system with long-range sensors. When the time comes, the ships make a "micro-jump" to the spot in-system where they need to be.
 
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