STARGATE UNIVERSE #4:Pathogen/Season 2/2010

[Orius]

Hulu (and Apple and Amazon) is having as much trouble with the various TV networks as Netflix (and Apple and Amazon) is having with the movie studios. This wacky new world of on-demand video will take quite a while to shake out yet.

My guess is that Hulu Plus will offer the episodes the day after they air.

Well, I don't plan to pay for Hulu. The Plus service still has ads.

In any case, it seems like yet another case of the entertainment industry still being hopelessly locked in the 20th century and unwilling to change. A shame that they're not properly threatened by extinction like the dinosaurs they are.

You may want to watch it on the Sci-fi site, they have the current shows.

Stargate Universe | Syfy they are only delayed a week.

Thanks for the tip. Let's hope they actually update things in a timely fashion.

 

[wolff96]

The writers need to make a lot more happen in each episode if most of what is going to happen is relatively mundane or focused on just a few characters. That felt like a half episode or less stretched to fill the time. Tighten it up, I say.

This, this, and even more, this. I could not agree more.

When it was over, I wanted my time back. They could have told that same story, with identical development in half the time or less.

Wray now has the power to get complete strangers, with no government contracts or clearance, into the heart of the SG-C for a quick jaunt to the other side of the Universe? That's an improvement over her depiction first season!

Chloe still annoys the crap out of me. Even if she has freaky alien powers, she's still a useless load. It's the fact that she's such a passive viewer of her own fate that drives me up a wall.

And on the complete other end of the scale, we've got Rush. Who is now off in his own little world of crazy. He obfuscates, he distracts, he offers false hope... What is his motivation? *Supposedly* his big drive was to find the ship and learn about Destiny. Now he can -- but is acting like a four-year-old with a favorite toy. "No, it's mine and you can't play with it!" If he actually wanted to learn about the ship, he'd be bringing in the other scientists...

Ugh. This season is really not keeping my interest. They need to make something happen soon or I'm out.

 

[MarkB]

This, this, and even more, this. I could not agree more.

When it was over, I wanted my time back. They could have told that same story, with identical development in half the time or less.

Wray now has the power to get complete strangers, with no government contracts or clearance, into the heart of the SG-C for a quick jaunt to the other side of the Universe? That's an improvement over her depiction first season!

Chloe still annoys the crap out of me. Even if she has freaky alien powers, she's still a useless load. It's the fact that she's such a passive viewer of her own fate that drives me up a wall.

And on the complete other end of the scale, we've got Rush. Who is now off in his own little world of crazy. He obfuscates, he distracts, he offers false hope... What is his motivation? *Supposedly* his big drive was to find the ship and learn about Destiny. Now he can -- but is acting like a four-year-old with a favorite toy. "No, it's mine and you can't play with it!" If he actually wanted to learn about the ship, he'd be bringing in the other scientists...

Ugh. This season is really not keeping my interest. They need to make something happen soon or I'm out.

So much QFT. I watched this yesterday evening, and my reaction at the end of the episode was "That's it. I'm done." Just couldn't sustain any further interest in the show.

I'll leave it bookmarked on Sky+ for now in case my interest is piqued, but I doubt I'll bother to watch next week's episode before deleting it.

 

[Merkuri]

Ahhhh, I finally got to see this episode after Hulu's abhorrent 30-day delay.

I thought it was good. I wasn't bothered by the slow pace, but maybe it was because I waited a month plus between episodes and I was craving another. There was a lot of emotion thrown around in this episode, and I'd argue that to condense this episode would have lost a lot of that impact.

I wonder if Rush actually did anything with Chloe when she was in the chair, or if it was just a ruse to get everyone to stop bothering her. I bet we'll find out next episode (which, as you can guess, I haven't seen yet - PLEASE no spoilers for episodes 5 or later in this thread).

And I really have to give the show props for not rushing to answer every question. Are the people Rush sees in the control room manifestations of the ship, or of his own psyche? What happened to Telford? Are the aliens who rescued TJ's baby still watching? What's their motivation? Are they even real?

 

[Orius]

Rush, sees every one as a tool.

That's because he is one himself.

In fact, I seem to be liking a bunch of characters more this season, not just Chloe. Especially Wray - who would have guessed?.

I liked her "Get it done" moment in this episode. She finally managed to do something useful and not look weak and incompetant.

I was kind of expecting that her partner was going to break up with her, with the sullen way she was behaving this episode, but it didn't happen. Maybe it's just the glacial pacing of the show (note to producers: drama in real time isn't exciting. )

I wonder if Rush actually did anything with Chloe when she was in the chair, or if it was just a ruse to get everyone to stop bothering her. I bet we'll find out next episode (which, as you can guess, I haven't seen yet - PLEASE no spoilers for episodes 5 or later in this thread).

My guess is that he didn't. He's such a bastard, and I don't mean in the admirable way, no he's a rotten, dirty, no-good rat bastard. Brody and Park are getting suspicious of his actions. So when they mention their suspicions to Young, Rush deflects and passes the blame to Chloe. Then he takes Chloe aside too see if the alien influences can help him with his equations. When she solves a problem he's been stuck on, he takes it right to Young, who locks poor Chloe up. Then he comes up with that chair scheme of his to cover more of his tracks. He figures it'll work because Chloe likes to clam up when something bad happens to her.

I was wondering if he came up with that plan because he was either jealous that she was able to solve a problem he couldn't (shades of Daedalus here on his part), or if he thought maybe he could somehow isolate the alien stuff happening to her and use it for his own end.

I wonder is he has any fans left at all. How could anyone like him after all his manipulations?

Are the people Rush sees in the control room manifestations of the ship, or of his own psyche?

I think it's his mind, with Franklin representing his intellect and his wife his conscience. Especially with his wife, she keeps telling him he can't keep his crap up. He's going to slip and get careless. I don't think his ploy with Chloe is going to buy him as much time as he thinks. And even if he managed to lessen Brody's suspicions with the whole chair stunt, he's going to need to be more careful than he was before. Brody seems like he's getting irritated with Rush's actions, and he might even discover that Rush has gained control over the ship and is hiding it. I don't think anyone on the crew is going to be happy with Rush when that little detail comes out.

 

[Merkuri]

I wonder is he has any fans left at all. How could anyone like him after all his manipulations?

I wouldn't say I'm a fan, but I do enjoy watching his character and trying to figure out what he'd do next and when his stuff's going to hit the fan.

But no, I don't think anyone could argue at this point that he's a likable character.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

He's a J.R. Ewing in spaaaaaaaaaaace!

An unlikeable human who is manipulative and conniving...and yet who drives much of the show. A main character we love to hate.

My issue with the way he's being written, though, is the hallucinations: the writers are taking him too far down the Gaius Baaltar path.

 

[Orius]

He's a J.R. Ewing in spaaaaaaaaaaace!

Oh gawd, don't tell me he's going to get shot at the end of this seaon, then we'll spend half of next season wondering who did it (it'll take that long with the show's pacing), only do find out Chloe or Eli just dreamt it all up....

My issue with the way he's being written, though, is the hallucinations: the writers are taking him too far down the Gaius Baaltar path.

Was that a typo, or was that double a some kind of subtle Stagate Galactica crack?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Oh gawd, don't tell me he's going to get shot at the end of this seaon, then we'll spend half of next season wondering who did it (it'll take that long with the show's pacing), only do find out Chloe or Eli just dreamt it all up....

We almost had that at the end of the first season...

Was that a typo, or was that double a some kind of subtle Stagate Galactica crack?

No typo, but also not a crack. I just don't want SG:U's writers to copy that character.

 

[Orius]

Given the things you've posted I wasn't sure if that was some weird mash-up of Baltar and the System Lord Baal you were referring to.