Starship Enterprise

[Vigilance]

A) They clearly weren't familiar with cars at all in the scene.

What about Spock shouting all the time in the Cage, set (like this movie) before TOS? Should every line of dialogue Spock has be shouted in this movie, like he's serving on a WWII submarine?

What about McCoy's southern accent?

If we hold this movie to every line of dialogue uttered by or about the TOS characters, they're going to need to hand out cliff notes as you walk in (and again- we're basically talking about 1 scene of 1 episode where Kirk doesn't seem familiar with cars).

And please don't try to argue "Well, it could've been a reproduction, with an automatic." Yes, it could. But I think we both know that the scene was there because JJ Abrams wasn't familiar with the episode A Piece of the Action, and not for any other reason.

I wasn't going to argue that. Again, the minutiae required for me to argue "well clearly it's a reproduction and all cars in the 23rd century would be manual transmission" is exactly the sort of madness I am specifically lobbying all trek fans to avoid.

Remmber, I am only calling on us to be as mellow as Batman fans.

And as for the assumption that neither Abrams, nor Orci, nor Kurtzman has seen a Piece of the Action, I find it hard to believe none of the 3 had seen that episode.

According to comments they have made, Abrams is a casual trek fan, one of the writing duo was not a fan at all, and one was a HUGE fan with encyclopedic knowledge of the franchise.

More likely, they are not going to bind themselves to everything ever written about those characters, in the interest of making a good movie.

Is that an unforgivable sin? No. As I said, I liked the bulk of the trailer. But it is a break from ST canon, and it's one that bugged the "canon-Trek-Geek" part of me. No more, no less.

Right, I understand what you're saying. I know the canon, I even love it. DS9 was my favorite Trek series precisely because of this.

But this was going to happen (a re-envisioning/re-whatever of the TOS) eventually. I'm just glad they're doing it now. Remmeber when they were saying we'd go 10 years before another Trek movie?

I'm glad that didn't happen, and just hoping for a good movie.

 

[Pbartender]

And as for the assumption that neither Abrams, nor Orci, nor Kurtzman has seen a Piece of the Action, I find it hard to believe none of the 3 had seen that episode.

That aside... I'm a pretty big Trek fan. I saw the trailer last night. I've seen that particular episode. I honestly forgot about that nit pick until you guys mentioned here. And now that I remember it... Eh, big deal. Star Wars has done worse.

 

[Orius]

It should be the same as the ST:OS, U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701, Constitution class.

It damn well better be.

No bloody A, B, C, OR D.

 

[Knightfall]

That aside... I'm a pretty big Trek fan. I saw the trailer last night. I've seen that particular episode. I honestly forgot about that nit pick until you guys mentioned here. And now that I remember it... Eh, big deal. Star Wars has done worse.

Speaking of which...

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[Blackrat]

Lets see. I'm undecided about the car... I can live with the retconned looks of the ship. But there is one thing I most certainly can't accept: Have you noticed the lenght of Uhura's skirt?! How could they make it so long?! It's way too inconsistent with the originals!

*Warning, above post may or may not contain humor. Trekkie Control Adviced*

 

[The One Ring]

*drools all over her keyboard*

That Enerprise is teh seks.

 

[Wycen]

I wasn't actually making reference to Kirk's lack of car knowledge, just that he trashed a beautiful thing.

However, I fully expect them to push the limits and re-envision as much as they think they can get away with and then maybe a little more. Wonder what kind of fall out would happen if they Battle Star Galatica'ed it...

 

[Hand of Evil]

Okay, was that part of Top Gun in the trailer? Still, I liked it.

 

[Arnwyn]

but I fear this movie will get drowned by nerds

I don't know what this means.

 

[Mallus]

Wonder what kind of fall out would happen if they Battle Star Galatica'ed it...

The likely result would be one of the finest dramatic films of the year, full of Oscar-worthy performances, that pisses off a chunk of the original fan base but still does well enough to warrant a sequel.

Also, the Top Gun-esque sequence was puzzling... but the rest of the trailer looked great.

re: canon... it's my sincere hope that they nuke most of the Star Trek canon from orbit --it's the only way to be sure-- lest it blast a hole in their new flagship.... well, at least w/r/t the nitpick-y little details that weren't consistent throughout the run of TOS, let alone the following series.