Stunning Fist = InstaGrapple?

[wolfen]

Assume Flurry of Blows or Full Round Attack... an 8th level monk lands a successful stunning fist with his 1st attack. The stunned target has no Dex bonus to AC, -2 to AC for being stunned, and Not Allowed to Act. No attack of opportunity, right? Would the target be able to resist (oppose the melee attack) at all?


Case #2 -- the target is holding a Wand of Lightning Bolt. The same monk (as above) wishes to Disarm and take the wand (instead of grapple). Wouldn't he, again, roll to Disarm and take the wand unopposed? Or am I taking "unable to act" too literally? I'm thinking the DM shouldn't be able to roll any opposed attacks at all for an NPC who is unable to act and, therefore, unable to oppose.

I suspect this has been covered, and appreciate your patience in my quest to find the answers.


Thanks,
wolfen

 

[Camarath]

You might want take a look at this thread http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75625.
Here is a Quote by Hypersmurf from the thread.

The answer is exactly right. But beware the loophole that the answer, in a way, confirms:

Both the dazed condition and the stunned condition state that the affected creature "can't take any actions".

But, as the Sage has just noted, an AoO is not an action.

I have seen it argued that, with these points in mind, neither the dazed nor stunned conditions prevent a creature from taking an AoO. (Assuming the stunned creature still threatens an area after dropping everything he is holding.)

As a DM, I'd simply say "Um, no."

But just be aware that the interpretation exists.

-Hyp.

Also, I do not think that being unable to act means that one does not get to resist opposed checks.

 

[wolfen]

You might want take a look at this thread http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75625

Thanks for the link. I can accept the idea that the opposed attack role happens. That makes sense. However, the "you can't act but you can attack" argument in that thread is ruinous.

Thanks, again

wolfen

 

[Ransom]

Case #2 is a moot point.

Stunned: A stunned creature drops everything held, can’t take actions, takes a –2 penalty to AC, and loses his Dexterity
bonus to AC (if any).

If you want the wand you don't disarm him you just pick it up