Suggestion for WotC Site: Iconics

[Ogrork the Mighty]

My apologies if this already exists somewhere, but to my knowledge it does not.

I think WotC should post stats for the iconic D&D characters (Regdar, Mialee, etc.) on its website. At minimum the stats should be for starting, low, medium, and high levels but creating stats for every level from 1st thru 20th would be even better.

Why you ask? First, it would give new players an example of the classes from starting to high levels (thereby showing how a character progresses). Second, it would provide standardized pregenerated characters that could be utilized by anyone for pretty much any adventure (only Core rules should be used). There are already D&D minis for the iconics; there should also be stats for them as well.

I was thinking that it would be great for one-shot campaigns to enable players to just pick one of the iconics, select the appropriate D&D mini (WotC really should sell a set of all the iconics, IMHO), and whammo! they're ready to play. And a DM that runs many different games with many different groups would quickly become familiar with the iconics and would know what to expect and prepare for.

Does this sound unreasonable?

 

[Jdvn1]

Why you ask? First, it would give new players an example of the classes from starting to high levels (thereby showing how a character progresses).

Well, they've already done that with non-iconic characters. I don't see how it's better with iconics.

Second, it would provide standardized pregenerated characters that could be utilized by anyone for pretty much any adventure (only Core rules should be used). There are already D&D minis for the iconics; there should also be stats for them as well.

Well, if you want to bring up the D&D Minis, then there are already standardized mini stats for them.

I was thinking that it would be great for one-shot campaigns to enable players to just pick one of the iconics, select the appropriate D&D mini (WotC really should sell a set of all the iconics, IMHO), and whammo! they're ready to play. And a DM that runs many different games with many different groups would quickly become familiar with the iconics and would know what to expect and prepare for.

Hm, I think that's a cool idea, but I wouldn't limit it to iconics. I'd have a fairly wide variety of pre-gens to choose from.

Does this sound unreasonable?

I think they have partial stats somewhere, but I don't know. I think it's an interesting idea, but just because it'd be neat. I don't think they'd be overly useful.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

If you search the WOTC archives, there's stats for a few at 1st level posted waaaaaaay back. And then there's stats for them from the various novels that were done with them in it. And at different levels too. Just search under the novel titles which were published in, I think, 2002-2003. I think they did most of them; can't swear that all were done....

There's also stats for them in the DMG, a heroes-related book (I don't have this one so I can't tell ya what the title is... ) and the back of the minis cards. (one side has minis stats for the minis game and the other side has D&D stats for RPG use).

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Enemies and Allies has exactly that...though they're 3.0, of course.

 

[Ogrork the Mighty]

My apologies, Enemies and Allies is exactly what I was talking about. It has levels 5, 10, and 15 for every iconic character. Nifty!!!

 

[Mark]

My apologies, Enemies and Allies is exactly what I was talking about. It has levels 5, 10, and 15 for every iconic character. Nifty!!!

I often use those for playtesting. You can also get some of the iconics, at various levels, as they appeared as characters in various books. Just go here (gotta sift through them) -

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/archives

And there are some other NPCs to check out here -

http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/cc

You can grab some pics to use for your NPCs and PCs (not for websites, but for your home games) here -

http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/pc

 

[Tav_Behemoth]

When I started playtesting monsters for Masters and Minions, I too went to the Wizards site figuring I could get stats for the iconics at any level. After much compiling from the archives and Enemies and Allies, I still wasn't happy with what I had - L5 and L10 versions won't help much when you're trying to decide if a creature is CR7 or CR8.

So I wound up making a character of each core class from level 1-20, equipped as a PC and with feats and spells already selected (unlike the ones in the DMG) - and, since I do think there's a need for them, decided to release them as PDFs. The original title for the series was the "New Iconics"; we went with "Elites" instead, since we wanted the flexibility to do some out-there concepts as well (iconic fighter, sure, but iconic prankster bard/barbarian/shadowdancer?).

Each PDF will have a character sheet, a stat card, a back-story, and random generators to determine fun things like what happened to the character in the process of gaining each level and what one-shot items they might have at a certain level. A sample of the character sheet for a monstrous Elite is here; the series should be launching this spring!

EDIT: Oh, they'll also have NPC-value equipped versions as well for DMs; and we have a standing offer to provide Elites as pre-generated PCs for anyone running games at Gen Con.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Individual iconic novel character "breakdowns" by novel (note: not all novels had this done..., so this leaves out several of the bunch):

The Sundered Arms

The Bloody Eye

Treachery's Wake

Oath of Nerull

The Savage Caves

The Living Dead


For "funsies". The "insider" reveals all about the rest of the iconics. Warning: FUNNY!
Lidda Gossips about the rest of the group.....

 

[Darth K'Trava]

A link to where 5 of the iconics were statted at 18th level AND updated to 3.5 as per the author's words....

18th Level Iconics