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D&D General Survivor 5E Dragons - Gold Dragon Proves its worth!


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CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
Black Dragon 4
Gold Dragon 7+1=8
Silver Dragon 6-2=4
How is this still a thing?

I mean, it doesn't even breathe fire. That's like the bare minimum requirement to be a dragon. It's Dragon 101, literally the first thing lizards are supposed to learn in Dragon Kindergarten.
 


Yardiff

Adventurer
Black Dragon 6
Gold Dragon 7+1=8
Green Dragon 3-2=1

Silver Dragon 6

We have a remaining sum of 21, so since each post reduces things by 1, we have an absolute maximum of 19 posts remaining (and that could only occur if it comes down to the absolute wire, with the last person eliminating either a dragon with just 1 vote left, or just 2 votes left, since it's not possible to get two both at 1). Assuming every + vote went to the current leader (Gold), which is extremely unlikely but the most efficient path to ending the sequence, it would require 7 posts bare minimum to end it. By comparison, for Green to win, you'd need 4+3+3 = 10. The 19 number comes from avoiding killing anything off, and/or intentionally "wasting" reduction votes by downvoting something with only 1 vote left.

So yeah, it's pretty likely that it ends today. Unless far fewer people vote. It is very interesting how swingy and surprisingly close this race has been. Making it to even the top 3 will be a pretty significant achievement!
Down votes are 2 not 1.
 



OB1

Jedi Master
Almost over! For Fiends, do y'all prefer downvotes being worth 3 or to split up the list into Devils, Demons and Other?
 

Almost over! For Fiends, do y'all prefer downvotes being worth 3 or to split up the list into Devils, Demons and Other?
I prefer splitting. You learn a lot less if you have too many things crowded together.

Down votes are 2 not 1.
Correct, but because you upvote by 1 and downvote by 2, the total sum of scores always drops by 1 with each vote, unless part of a downvote is "wasted" by being spent on killing off something at 1 (which leaves the total sum of scores unchanged). That's what I meant by "things drop by 1," which I admit was unclear.

The minimum final score is 2 (which only happens if the last two options grind all the way down to 1 v 1). Since the total either decreases with every vote, or remains unchanged, even actively trying to slow it down cannot avoid killing off targets eventually. (In math this is called "weakly decreasing": it never goes up, but it doesn't ALWAYS go down.)

Thus, the maximum possible amount of votes to determine a winner is (current sum of scores)-2, not counting any "wasted" votes. This is only really possible if people are intentionally spreading their votes around to keep everything on the similar level. Likewise, the minimum number of votes to win is (total scores of all but the highest current option)/2, which again could only really happen if everyone always up votes a single option and down votes all other options.
 


Omand

Adventurer
Gold Dragon 7 + 1 = 8
Silver Dragon 5 - 2 = 3

Wow, I did not think it would come down to Gold vs. Silver at the end. I hoped it would, but figured one or the other would be taken out earlier.
 

Omand

Adventurer
Almost over! For Fiends, do y'all prefer downvotes being worth 3 or to split up the list into Devils, Demons and Other?
I would recommend splitting the fiends into the three subgroups as well. There are more than enough to fill each category.

Cheers :)
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
Eh, I say pile them all together and get it over with. One big list or three smaller ones, it will still end up taking several weeks...so I say just grit our teeth and yank that band-aid off all at once.

I could use a break from monsters, tbh. I'm more interested in some player-side stuff, like "Survivor: New Spells in Tasha's Cauldron" or something.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
If we do split fiends into three subgroups, I would avoid the "Demon", "Yugoloth" and "Devil" categorizations, as not all fiends in 5e fit into those groups. I would do it by alignment, NE for one, CE for another, and LE for another. Then, all demons would stay in the same group, all devils in the same group, and all yugoloths in one group, with a few additional fiends for each group as well.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
I could use a break from monsters, tbh. I'm more interested in some player-side stuff, like "Survivor: New Spells in Tasha's Cauldron" or something.
I agree. I personally would prefer subclasses or classes, though. I say put just the 13 classes in the next one and see which one comes out as the victor. It should be a fairly quick contest.
 


Argyle King

Legend
I could see the devils and such being done in stages.

The winners of each category (devil, demon, loth, etc,) are reset to a count of 10 and advance to a final sudden death round, to declare an overal winner.
 



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