D&D 5E Survivor XGTE New Subclasses - SHADOW MAGIC WINS!

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Yay a sorcerer won!!
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I was really hoping that, after the Divine Soul, the Shadow Magic would have been gone. The Shadow Magic subclass is a class that will never see the light of day in one of my campaigns. If it had been removed, it would left the only three Xanther subclasses that I would consider allowing in a campaign. Although to be honest, I don't consider the Cavalier, Grave Domain, and Scout to be great subclasses. On a scale of 1-10, I would rate them no higher than 5.5. However in a book where I find the subclasses to range from poor to mediocre at best (with most rating no higher than a 4), those were the three that I consider to be the best of the bunch and, both mechanically and conceptually, appropriate for the games I run (Note: I, really, wanted to like the Divine Soul and Celestial Warlock)
 

I was really hoping that, after the Divine Soul, the Shadow Magic would have been gone. The Shadow Magic subclass is a class that will never see the light of day in one of my campaigns. If it had been removed, it would left the only three Xanther subclasses that I would consider allowing in a campaign. Although to be honest, I don't consider the Cavalier, Grave Domain, and Scout to be great subclasses. On a scale of 1-10, I would rate them no higher than 5.5. However in a book where I find the subclasses to range from poor to mediocre at best (with most rating no higher than a 4), those were the three that I consider to be the best of the bunch and, both mechanically and conceptually, appropriate for the games I run (Note: I, really, wanted to like the Divine Soul and Celestial Warlock)

D&d is a lot bigger than just the games you run. If the subclasses are not to your taste fair enough, but I know many settings where the concepts would be more than fine.
 

I was really hoping that, after the Divine Soul, the Shadow Magic would have been gone. The Shadow Magic subclass is a class that will never see the light of day in one of my campaigns. If it had been removed, it would left the only three Xanther subclasses that I would consider allowing in a campaign. Although to be honest, I don't consider the Cavalier, Grave Domain, and Scout to be great subclasses. On a scale of 1-10, I would rate them no higher than 5.5. However in a book where I find the subclasses to range from poor to mediocre at best (with most rating no higher than a 4), those were the three that I consider to be the best of the bunch and, both mechanically and conceptually, appropriate for the games I run (Note: I, really, wanted to like the Divine Soul and Celestial Warlock)
You really can't read too much into these results -- a negative vote does not necessarily reflect on either the desirability of the class or its lack of popularity: as often as not, it is a decision against a potential "winner" when assessed agains a personal favourite. And the impact of one or two negative votes in close succession is insuperable.
 

D&d is a lot bigger than just the games you run. If the subclasses are not to your taste fair enough, but I know many settings where the concepts would be more than fine.

I know it is bigger than my tastes. However, I was just commenting on the outcome I was hoping for and why I voted for my choices.
 

You really can't read too much into these results -- a negative vote does not necessarily reflect on either the desirability of the class or its lack of popularity: as often as not, it is a decision against a potential "winner" when assessed agains a personal favourite. And the impact of one or two negative votes in close succession is insuperable.

Oh, I know that. As I wrote in response to another post, I was simply stating what I wish the outcome had been and why I voted the way I did (including my thoughts on Xanthar's subclasses in general).
 



D&d is a lot bigger than just the games you run. If the subclasses are not to your taste fair enough, but I know many settings where the concepts would be more than fine.
You'll get used to Greg K, he's just the D&D equivalent of a really picky eater. :)
 

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