D&D (2024) Sword Coast population data from 2024 D&D Pocket Expert

[Paul Farquhar]

But, we're talking about trade east FROM Waterdeep.

Waterdeep has trade west, to the lands WotC no longer talks about, as well as trade with the distant south, down into the Underdark and up into space. The whole of the Sword Coast is under Waterdeep's economic control - you do not need to fly a nation's flag to be part of it's empire. Baldur's Gate is a vassal state, and trades east. Waterdeep's naval fleet controls the seas. Waterdeep's culture and religion dominate the region. "The Lord's Alliance" is a synonym for "Empire of Waterdeep".

 

[Zardnaar]

Waterdeep has trade west, to the lands WotC no longer talks about, as well as trade with the distant south, down into the Underdark and up into space. The whole of the Sword Coast is under Waterdeep's economic control - you do not need to fly a nation's flag to be part of it's empire. Baldur's Gate is a vassal state, and trades east. Waterdeep's naval fleet controls the seas. Waterdeep's culture and religion dominate the region. "The Lord's Alliance" is a synonym for "Empire of Waterdeep",

Except it doesn't control territory much beyond Waterdeep.

Venice had a population of around 2 million. Not just in Venice but through all it's dominion.

Your post is essentially pure speculation.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Except it doesn't control territory much beyond Waterdeep.

You don't need to control "territory". You just need to control trade.

Your post is essentially pure speculation.

It's a consequence. In any sort of mutual defence agreement, e.g. Lord's Alliance, NATO, whoever has the most money controls the rest. It's an Empire, even if it doesn't have an Emperor.

 

[Zardnaar]

You don't need to control "territory". You just need to control trade.

It's a consequence. In any sort of mutual defence agreement, e.g. Lord's Alliance, NATO, whoever has the most money controls the rest. It's an Empire, even if it doesn't have an Emperor.

It's ten times the population of Venice on 1/5th- 1/3rd the space. It's density is almost 15 times that of Manilla irl.

If its the greater area that's fine.

 

[W'rkncacnter]

A labor force of undead? The ultimate green energy. Skeltons produce no greenhouse gases, consume no resources, and can't unionize.

If you take D&D magic to it's logical conclusion most jobs would be outsourced to undead, animated objects, and bound extraplanar beings. The mending Cantrip replaces 100 of jobs. It makes sense people go adventuring unemployment would be sky high.

4E--no, wait, that's definitely wrong, let me check my notes...
EBERRON STRIKES AGAIN!

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It's ten times the population of Venice on 1/5th- 1/3rd the space. It's density is almost 15 times that of Manilla irl.

If it’s the greater area that's fine.

The City of London is a square mile. Obviously all these cities are considerably larger than the maps of the central areas.

Although fantasy cities can also build down.

 

[Zardnaar]

The City of London is a square mile. Obviously all these cities are considerably larger than the maps of the central areas.

Although fantasy cities can also build down.

At 2 million it's 1/4 Imperial Rome in size and double the population.

It's 3E stats are similar to Singapore in density.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

At 2 million it's 1/4 Imperial Rome in size and double the population.

Its 3E stats are similar to Singapore in density.

And what does they make the City of London? 9 million in one square mile?

 

[Zardnaar]

And what does they make the City of London? 9 million in one square mile?

London didn't hit a million until 19th century iirc (1800 apparently).

UK population was around 5 million iirc at time of Union with Scotland 1707.

Modern London is less than Waterdeep 132k in 1372 DR. Google says 8400 odd. Waterdeep is over 20k in 1372 DR.

 

[Hussar]

You don't need to control "territory". You just need to control trade.

It's a consequence. In any sort of mutual defence agreement, e.g. Lord's Alliance, NATO, whoever has the most money controls the rest. It's an Empire, even if it doesn't have an Emperor.

Ah. Ok. You’re basing this on your head canon. Fair enough.