Swordmage Class

[Klaus]

I think that one designer stated that the knight powers were split between the fighter and the paladin, so it would look like that there is no knight class in 4e.

Right.

So, what class could be considered a Martial Controller?

 

[Rechan]

So, what class could be considered a Martial Controller?

I can't think of any sort of martial class that can effect large spaces, except for maybe an archer who can do something like "Storm of Arrows".

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

ANyone want to guess which posts were the ones he's referring to?

We can only wonder.

I'd guess that two things are pretty solid:

(1) It's the "arcane defender" class
(2) It accomplishes an integration of swordplay and spells that no current mix of multiclass and prestige class can offer from 1st level, that probably integrates both weapon and spells early on.

Beyond that ... I'd speculate that the swordmage kills the duskblade and takes his stuff, but whether the character is a swordmage or swordmage or a swordmage an open question.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Right.

So, what class could be considered a Martial Controller?

The Grenadier (alternate name: Sapper or Engineer). He's really good with alchemist's fire, tanglefoot bags, and other alchemical products that act like spells but are of mundane construction. He's good with weapons, though not as proficient as a fighter, and is typically employed as a seige engineer. His variety of skills, trapsetting/defeating abilities, and alchemical crafting abilities give him the ability to prepare and control the battlefield to canalize the enemies to be destroyed by strikers and defenders -- or wear them down so they can be easily dispatched.

 

[Rechan]

The Grenadier (alternate name: Sapper or Engineer). He's really good with alchemist's fire, tanglefoot bags, and other alchemical products that act like spells but are of mundane construction. He's good with weapons, though not as proficient as a fighter, and is typically employed as a seige engineer. His variety of skills, trapsetting/defeating abilities, and alchemical crafting abilities give him the ability to prepare and control the battlefield to canalize the enemies to be destroyed by strikers and defenders -- or wear them down so they can be easily dispatched.

Oh man, that right there is sexy.

 

[Rechan]

We can only wonder.

I'd guess that two things are pretty solid:

(1) It's the "arcane defender" class
(2) It accomplishes an integration of swordplay and spells that no current mix of multiclass and prestige class can offer from 1st level, that probably integrates both weapon and spells early on.

Beyond that ... I'd speculate that the swordmage kills the duskblade and takes his stuff, but whether the character is a swordmage or swordmage or a swordmage an open question.

I'm hoping that the guy can use things that aren't swords. Bows, or even unarmed attacks. I think a guy who can buff himself or make his fists flaming before punching someone's nose in.

 

[Polyhedral_Columbia]

So, what class could be considered a Martial Controller?

Barbarian?!?

 

[hong]

I can't think of any sort of martial class that can effect large spaces, except for maybe an archer who can do something like "Storm of Arrows".

Bingo. Machine-gun archer.

As opposed to one-shot-kill sniper, which is the other major archetype for archery d00ds.

 

[RigaMortus2]

Or because without using the AE magic system, using an AE casting class is pretty worthless.

Hence the Why not update that into 4E instead of inventing the wheel?

update = not taking it word for word from AE

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Right.

So, what class could be considered a Martial Controller?

A class that's a lot like the Swordsage from Tome of Battle, which does have area attacks, and attacks which inflict certain conditions on enemies.