Swordmage Double Aegis Question

[Spatula]

The Double Aegis paragon feat for swordmages (from the FRPG) allows you to mark two targets with your aegis of shielding or assault class power. It goes on to say,

"If both targets attack your allies, you must choose which of the targets to respond to. (you still have only one immediate action per round.)"

Checking the aegis of assault power, it's an immediate reaction, which as I understand it, you get 1 for each combatant's round, and so you should be able to respond to either marked target. Is the feat text incorrect in this case?

The aegis of shielding is an immediate interrupt, so the feat text would be right in that case. Correct?

 

[fba827]

I think you are misremembering immediate action. You only get one immediate action (which can be an immediate reaction or immediate interrupt) per round. So from the end of your turn until the start of your next turn, you'd only be able to do one immediate reaction (thus, you'd only get to reduce damage/attack from one of the two enemies).

Opportunity actions (most commonly an opportunity attack), on the other hand, you get one per combatant's turn - that may be what you're thinking of.

PHB p268 for referece.

 

[Spatula]

Ah ok, I always thought that OAs were basically immediate reactions.

 

[Eldorian]

Ah ok, I always thought that OAs were basically immediate reactions.

Actually, OA's are interrupts. They take effect before the action which triggers them.

 

[HandofMystra]

Actually, OA's are interrupts. They take effect before the action which triggers them.

Th swordmage Aegis attacks are immediate reactions. They take place after the action that triggers them; Immediate interrupts, such as a regular OA take place before the triggering action completes.

 

[fba827]

Ah ok, I always thought that OAs were basically immediate reactions.

OAs _act_ like immediate interrupts. However, they do not use up your immediate action (be it interrupt or reaction) for the round.

But, yeah, it's an easy thing to over look/mixup. I used to mess it up for quite some time which is why I knew exactly what you were thinking of

 

[Eldorian]

Th swordmage Aegis attacks are immediate reactions. They take place after the action that triggers them; Immediate interrupts, such as a regular OA take place before the triggering action completes.

Um, OAs aren't immediate actions. I don't know why your post was addressed to me.

 

[Spatula]

As long as I've got this thread here, a related question came up in my last game. My fighter was adjacent to an enemy caster. The caster shifted, and I took my Combat Challenge attack. But she shifted into an adjacent square and then used a ranged attack on me (still not sure what the DM was trying to do there). I passed on the OA because I was thinking that maybe I couldn't use Combat Challenge and an OA in the same round. Should I have gotten an OA too?

 

[Atlatl Jones]

As long as I've got this thread here, a related question came up in my last game. My fighter was adjacent to an enemy caster. The caster shifted, and I took my Combat Challenge attack. But she shifted into an adjacent square and then used a ranged attack on me (still not sure what the DM was trying to do there). I passed on the OA because I was thinking that maybe I couldn't use Combat Challenge and an OA in the same round. Should I have gotten an OA too?

Yes. While you couldn't take two OA's on your opponent's turn, there's nothing preventing you from using an OA and an immediate action against the same opponent.

 

[Thundershield]

Yes. While you couldn't take two OA's on your opponent's turn, there's nothing preventing you from using an OA and an immediate action against the same opponent.

Indeed. That's what can make a Fighter so sticky.

Also, on a side note, OA is probably better used as an abbreviation for "Opportunity Action" as more and more feats, powers, and features (Summoning powers in particular) allow you to do new stuff with your opportunity actions (which you normally only use for opportunity attacks).

Opportunity actions can still only be used against the target provoking it.