Sylar to play Spock in JJ Abrams' Star Trek re-make!

[Mallus]

I'm all for reinterpreations (and reboots). Happens with opera and Shakespeare all the time. Frankly, it makes me a little sad when we're stuck with a single version of a good story/set of characters. Unless a wad of money changes hands.

For instance, it would have been a crying shame if there was only the 1970's version of Battlestar Galatica. Terrific premise, disco kid's show execution. I'm really glad that got revisited.

Of course, TOS is vastly different from oBSG, seeing as it's actual good, in fact, one of the seminal SF televsion series. All I can say about Sylar, err, Quinto, is that I he looks the part, and can probably imitate Nimoy well enough to pull it off, though his playing Spock will put more the burden on whoever plays Kirk.

 

[Elf Witch]

I'm all for reinterpreations (and reboots). Happens with opera and Shakespeare all the time. Frankly, it makes me a little sad when we're stuck with a single version of a good story/set of characters. Unless a wad of money changes hands.

For instance, it would have been a crying shame if there was only the 1970's version of Battlestar Galatica. Terrific premise, disco kid's show execution. I'm really glad that got revisited.

Of course, TOS is vastly different from oBSG, seeing as it's actual good, in fact, one of the seminal SF televsion series. All I can say about Sylar, err, Quinto, is that I he looks the part, and can probably imitate Nimoy well enough to pull it off, though his playing Spock will put more the burden on whoever plays Kirk.

To a lot of fans the orginial BSG was a good show and they wanted to see a show that used the same characters. Fans for years signed petitions and wrote letters to any studio that showed an interest in picking up the show.


I watch the new show but it is not Battlestar Galactica to me its just a show with the same name.

I don't want to see a reboot of Trek if it is going to be in name only. If you are going to do a movie with Kirk and Spock then make sure they are Kirk and Spock not just characters with the same name.

I know this can be done I watch soap operas And they often recast characters you tune in and one day and the old actor is there and the next you get the Role of is now being played by.

These new actors don't try and mimic the actor before they bring their own style of acting to the role but the writers don't suddenly change the characters so it is not a huge shock and you are not left wondering who is this character.

 

[Mallus]

To a lot of fans the orginial BSG was a good show and they wanted to see a show that used the same characters.

Don't get me wrong, I loved oBSG when it first ran and I was 10 years old. I so wanted to be that little boy with the robot dog who lived on a big spaceship with some other people who had really bad hair but great day jobs flying tiny spaceships that could turbo-reverse.

As an adult, all I can get out of it in a brief rush of nostalgia, and mainly for the opening score.

I watch the new show but it is not Battlestar Galactica to me its just a show with the same name.

For me its the better verison. Like the ones the kids in Heaven watch when God's asleep.

edit: Which goes to show the value of remakes; a single premise can be spun out in very different ways that have totally disimiliar fans.

If you are going to do a movie with Kirk and Spock then make sure they are Kirk and Spock not just characters with the same name.

Kirk and Spock are good characters, and like any good characters, there are a lot of potentially interesting interpretations. I hope Abrams and co. find two. To my mind, only shallow and uninteresting characters have a single 'correct' portrayal.

 

[Elf Witch]

Don't get me wrong, I loved oBSG when it first ran and I was 10 years old. I so wanted to be that little boy with the robot dog who lived on a big spaceship with some other people who had really bad hair but great day jobs flying tiny spaceships that could turbo-reverse.

As an adult, all I can get out of it in a brief rush of nostalgia, and mainly for the opening score.


For me its the better verison. Like the ones the kids in Heaven watch when God's asleep.


Kirk and Spock are good characters, and like any good characters, there are a lot of potentially interesting interpretations. I hope Abrams and co. find two. To my mind, only shallow and uninteresting characters have a single 'correct' portrayal.

I saw the orginal when I was 20 and pregnant with my first child. I became very involved in BSG fandom. I still enjoy the old show sure some of the epsidoes are really cheesy and if you watch a bunch at one time you can tired of the same stock footage. But I still read the new comics based on the older series and I still collect fanfic. I have read and enjoyed Richard Hatch's books set in the old universe. And I will get in a mood for a BSG day as matter of fact last weekend I watched both pilots.

I have no problem when someone says I like the new show better what tends to get my back up is when some of the fans of the new show just rag and rag on the old show and insult the fans of the old show. Hey show a little frakking respect because if it was not for the old show and the fans of the old show you wouldn't have the new show.

As for Kirk and Spock you can do different aspects of their personalities but if you make Kirk a woman with an abused past who drowns her sorrows in booze then it is no longer Kirk it is just a character with the same name.

 

[Mallus]

Hey show a little frakking respect because if it was not for the old show and the fans of the old show you wouldn't have the new show.

You have a point there. The next time I go out I'll raise a glass of ambrosia in honor of oBSG.

As for Kirk and Spock you can do different aspects of their personalities but if you make Kirk a woman with an abused past who drowns her sorrows in booze then it is no longer Kirk it is just a character with the same name.

See, I think you could pull that off. I've always suspected Kirk is hiding some pain behind all that swagger, and drinking is surely true to the character. Besides, Kirk already got turned into a woman in Turnabout: Intruder. I say the precedent is there.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I have no problem when someone says I like the new show better what tends to get my back up is when some of the fans of the new show just rag and rag on the old show and insult the fans of the old show. Hey show a little frakking respect because if it was not for the old show and the fans of the old show you wouldn't have the new show..

I liked the show when it came on TV then, but today, I definitely prefer the new BSG. I think some of this disrespect might come from the early BSG TNS haters that popped up in the beginning of the new show. I visited the IMDB form for BSG and there wear some pretty bad people there. I guess a lot of fans of the new show got pretty pissed by guys like these, and now despise everything about the old show. Though, on the other hand, I think most fans these days are pretty sensible on this matter. It was only bad in the beginning. (But my view on the situation might be skewed that I basically gave up on the IMDB forum and otherwise only visit EnWorld - one of the most civilized places in the (online) world I know, and the SciFi forum (which is naturally pretty pro-BSG-TNS)

But your talk about a female Kirk got me thinking - it would be a nice twist to set a new show / movie after the current movies and series, with a new Captain Kirk - but this time, a female one. His Grandgrandgrandgranddaughter. (Unfortuantely, the canon so far implies that Kirk left no children. Which is too bad...)

 

[drothgery]

I guess seeing what every other show that has a reboot has done. Is leaving me a little wary.

I haven't heard anyone even suggesting that this movie is a 'Trek reboot'; it's in the same continuity, it's just the lead characters are a somewhat younger-than-TOS Kirk and Spock (who, for obvious reasons, can't be played by Nimoy and Shaetner).

Now, I think it'd be halfway decent idea to have no Trek for five or ten years and then actually do a reboot to knock out some of the sillier premises. So...

- anything that's supposed to be able to breed with humans should be decended from the Preservers, have red blood, and have internal organs set up pretty much like humans
- there should be money in the 24th century
- there should be a galactic map with a reference table for travel times at various warp factors rather than all travel being at the speed of plot
- the immediate future should be a 'dead zone' as far as the story is concerned (no time travel between any point after the first episode airs and 2150 or so and no major, universe-changing events happen in that time either), so that real life doesn't trample all over your future history in twenty years
- there should not be impossible tech other than warp drive and transporters, and no psi other than limitted telepathy
- Starfleet may do a lot of other things, but nobody tries to deny that it's the Federation's military

... but that's not what they're doing.

 

[Mallus]

...Kirk left no children...

Fat chance.

 

[Mistwell]

I wrote an article on the 40 years of Star Trek panel from Comic-Con that discusses this issue briefly. The guy who plays Sylar was also at a party I attended at the Con, but I didn't get a chance to talk to him.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11325

 

[Elf Witch]

I liked the show when it came on TV then, but today, I definitely prefer the new BSG. I think some of this disrespect might come from the early BSG TNS haters that popped up in the beginning of the new show. I visited the IMDB form for BSG and there wear some pretty bad people there. I guess a lot of fans of the new show got pretty pissed by guys like these, and now despise everything about the old show. Though, on the other hand, I think most fans these days are pretty sensible on this matter. It was only bad in the beginning. (But my view on the situation might be skewed that I basically gave up on the IMDB forum and otherwise only visit EnWorld - one of the most civilized places in the (online) world I know, and the SciFi forum (which is naturally pretty pro-BSG-TNS)

But your talk about a female Kirk got me thinking - it would be a nice twist to set a new show / movie after the current movies and series, with a new Captain Kirk - but this time, a female one. His Grandgrandgrandgranddaughter. (Unfortuantely, the canon so far implies that Kirk left no children. Which is too bad...)

I was there for the wars on several boards. I will not deny that some old BSG fans would not let it go and it got old real quick. But on the other hand some of the new BSG fans were equally rude they could not understand why some of the older fans were upset.

If 9/11 had not happened then Bryan Singer would have made his version which was a continuation. It didn't help that before the show ever aired Olmos was going on the record telling old fans not to bother to watch the new show.

And it really didn't help when the new fans would make ignorant statements like the old show got canned becuase the rating were awful. Not true the old show is one of the few shows thay was canned not because the rating were in the toilet but because the ratings were not high enough to warrant the show being shown on Sunday night where the networks got the most money. It was a very expensive show to make.

Or my favorite from people who never saw the old show the characters thought they were superheroes which is why they fought the cyclons in capes.

I think it has changed but it still has its moments like when David Elik made the comment about dropping ratings that it was the fault of the name BattleStar Galactica because people could not take it seriously becuase of the old show. That stirred the hornet's nest.

I would love to see a show or a movie about the first female Captain. And who knows maybe Kirk's son had a child. I don't think that would break the canon much.