Sylar to play Spock in JJ Abrams' Star Trek re-make!

[Fast Learner]

I'm really looking forward to this, and think it's a great casting choice. I stopped watching all things Trek about 10 years ago, as it felt like the overall quality went down and the life had been pretty drained from the whole franchise. Yes, there were a few DS9 episodes that I caught and thought were decent, and an Enterprise or two, but overall it all just felt like the same-old same-old.

Here we'll have production and direction that are from a whole new angle. No Brandon/Braga, none of the post-TOS actors or characters. I'm geeked.

 

[WhatGravitas]

That's what I'd prefer, but sadly we aren't getting it in movie form yet.

I feel similar - but it's probably true, that much more people associate Star Trek with Kirk, Spock and Bones, than with the idea of Star Trek or TNG/DS9.

This said, I think Quinto could do really well as Spock - and as for the note, that people will see Sylar... I don't think Heroes has as much type-casting as that statement infers - after all, Patrick Stewart was a good Professor X, despite being Jean-Luc Picard, and ST:TNG ran muuuch longer than Heroes.

So, while I'm a bit miffed about the presence of Spock (because I'm more on the TNG side), I still have to say that it looks promising - there is definitively the effort and direction a revitalized big screen TNG needs.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Sometimes, you have to roll the hard 7.

Well, Adamas saying is actually "Sometimes, you have to roll the hard six". And nobody knows what it means. In the second season, Apollo uses the words and and someone asks him what it means. The answer was something like. "Don't know, it's something my father uses to say".

 

[Hypersmurf]

Wow, way too many, way too technical questions in there.

Anyway, I said less than 5. I read an article awhile back that placed the number of men to lead three different series at two: Shatner and Chiklis.

Well, if Boston Legal counts for Shatner - where he's credited as "and William Shatner" at the end of the credits sequence - it opens up a whole lot of options for other people. (You can't call him the lead in the series when his Emmy nominations are for Best Supporting Actor!)

If instead they're counting Rescue 911 as his third (after Star Trek and TJ Hooker), it opens up a-whole-nother set of options for people "as themselves" in hosting roles.

As for Chiklis, he can have The Commish and The Shield, but if he can have Daddio, with a six-episode first season and cancelled a few episodes into season 2, then why can't Richard Dean Anderson have Legend? That brings him up to 3 with MacGyver and SG-1. I laready mentioned Ted Danson, whose Ink aired more episodes than Daddio, to go along with Cheers and Becker.

How about Bill Cosby, with I Spy, The Cosby Show, and Cosby?

How about Robert Wagner, with It Takes a Thief, Switch, and Hart to Hart?

Lorne Green, with Sailor of Fortune, Bonanza, and Battlestar Galactica?

If Shatner makes the list, it should be for Star Trek, TJ Hooker, and For The People!

-Hyp.

 

[Silver Moon]

If Shatner makes the list, it should be for Star Trek, TJ Hooker, and For The People!

Gee, am I the only one who remembers "The Barbary Coast" which ran for 13-episodes in the 1975-76 season and also starred Shatner? Seriously, it wasn't a bad show (set in 1870's San Francisco) but I would never call it successful.

TJ Hooker clearly counts - it ran for something like 6 or 7 seasons with Shatner in the top role. The star of Boston Legal is James Spader, Shatner is in a supporting role just as he was in the TekWar series.

As for ratings hits, you won't find anybody who tops Lucille Ball who had the hit shows:
I Love Lucy (1951-1957)
The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour/Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse (1957-1960) [very different format than 'I Love Lucy' but still Lucy Ricardo]
The Lucy Show (1962-1968) [playing Lucy Charmichael] and
Here's Lucy (1968-1974) [playing Lucy Carter].

So aside from the short 18-month of so hiatas during her divorce she had a quarter-century of ratings successes playing three different (albiet similar) characters.

 

[Vigilance]

Well, if Boston Legal counts for Shatner - where he's credited as "and William Shatner" at the end of the credits sequence - it opens up a whole lot of options for other people. (You can't call him the lead in the series when his Emmy nominations are for Best Supporting Actor!)

I can and I will. Boston Legal could be called the "Bill and Jim" show imo. It's all about the relationship between the two main characters.

In fact it frequently ends with Shatner and Spader sitting on the balcony.

As for where he's placed in the credits, I thought the two prime spots in credits were the beginning and the end?

And aren't the only two characters who moved from the Practice to Boston Legal those played by Spader and Shatner?

You can nitpick all you want (and apparently that's quite a bit).

My point was that Shatner clearly isn't so associated with the character of Kirk that he can't get work or critical acclaim, that he's talented, and that people clearly respond to him regardless of the character he's playing.

I only made that point to demonstrate that, while he may have been so closely associated with the Kirk character for a time that he couldn't get other work, that time seems to have passed.

Chuck

 

[Hypersmurf]

It's all about the relationship between the two main characters.

I'd call it the relationship between the main character and his sidekick, myself

And aren't the only two characters who moved from the Practice to Boston Legal those played by Spader and Shatner?

Those played by Spader and Rhona Mitra. Shatner was a guest on The Practice - his role was more in the nature of a crossover from an as-yet-nonexistent series, rather than a cast member who moved from one to the other

My point was that Shatner clearly isn't so associated with the character of Kirk that he can't get work or critical acclaim, that he's talented, and that people clearly respond to him regardless of the character he's playing.

Okay. My point was there seem to be more than five actors who have played a lead role in three series.

-Hyp.

 

[Richards]

There's also Bob Newhart, star of "The Bob Newhart Show," "Newhart," and "Bob." (The last one definitely wasn't as long-lived or as well-done as the first two, but still.)

Johnathan

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

How about actors like Robert Atzorn (Unser Lehrer Doktor Specht, Tatort, Oh Gott Herr Pfarrer, "Die Affäre Semmeling, among others), or Manfred Krug (Sesamstraße (German Sesame Street),Tatort, Liebling Kreuzberg, Auf Achse)

Ah, well, that's German TV, it probably doesn't count.

And either way, it's not really on topic - the question is, is Shatner somebody else than Kirk? (I tend to think he is, even if I didn't follow his other shows much - if at all)

 

[BrooklynKnight]

I can and I will. Boston Legal could be called the "Bill and Jim" show imo. It's all about the relationship between the two main characters.

In fact it frequently ends with Shatner and Spader sitting on the balcony.

As for where he's placed in the credits, I thought the two prime spots in credits were the beginning and the end?

And aren't the only two characters who moved from the Practice to Boston Legal those played by Spader and Shatner?

You can nitpick all you want (and apparently that's quite a bit).

My point was that Shatner clearly isn't so associated with the character of Kirk that he can't get work or critical acclaim, that he's talented, and that people clearly respond to him regardless of the character he's playing.

I only made that point to demonstrate that, while he may have been so closely associated with the Kirk character for a time that he couldn't get other work, that time seems to have passed.

Chuck

Actually James Spader is the only primary Actor. William Shatner was in the last 4 or 5 episodes of The Practice and was never in the credits. Lake Bell, also a guest star on the same episodes of the Practice, was a named cast member on Boston Legal for the entire first season and a guest star for the first few episodes of the second. Finally Rhona Mitra was a cast member with opening credits in the final season of The Practice that was in Boston Legal for the entire first season and a few episodes into the second.

William Shatner IS in a lead roll for Boston Legal, it the entire show revolves around Alan Shore and Denny Crane. They are the two bookend characters. Was Spader nominated for the Lead Actor award? That would explain Shatner getting Supporting actor.