System-free Settings

[jdrakeh]

By the rules above, I'd say you should also include:

Aihrde: After Winter's Dark Campaign Folio (Troll Lord Games)

D'oh! Agreed! I feel pretty silly for not including it initially, as I have a copy of it sitting less than two feet away from my computer

 

[WereSteve]

Guess I will put two items up for consideration ....

Wilderlands of High Fantasy (Box Set) by Judges Guild/Necromancer Games. Not sure what percentage is 3.5E specific, but I believe most of the rules crunch is in the Player's Guide which is a separate product.

Shadow World by I.C.E. ... mostly for the setting books which have some nice material.

 

[jdrakeh]

Wilderlands of High Fantasy (Box Set) by Judges Guild/Necromancer Games. Not sure what percentage is 3.5E specific, but I believe most of the rules crunch is in the Player's Guide which is a separate product.

It's more than one page worth of information, for certain, given that most of the box set is 3.5-specific encounters.

Shadow World by I.C.E. ... mostly for the setting books which have some nice material.

I have all of the older Loremaster / Shadow World supplements. . . they all contain more than one page of system-specific rules (though they are still an excellent read and a lot of fun). Did the new 4th edition Shadow World stuff drop the Rolemaster stats and such?

 

[Wombat]

Doesn't/didn't Harn have a big rules-free product?

Yep -- pretty much Harn.

http://www.columbiagames.com/cgi-bin/query/cfg/allharnitems.cfg

While there is some game material in their settings, for the most part it is pretty much "system free" ... and has glorious maps, to boot! Probably the best maps I have seen in gaming.

 

[jdrakeh]

Yep -- pretty much Harn.

http://www.columbiagames.com/cgi-bin/query/cfg/allharnitems.cfg

While there is some game material in their settings, for the most part it is pretty much "system free" ... and has glorious maps, to boot! Probably the best maps I have seen in gaming.

Again, I fell pretty silly. I own every Columbia Games Harn product ever published. And yet. . . somehow. . . I utterly failed to think of HarnWorld as an inclusion on the list.

 

[radferth]

I have the player's guide to the Wilderlands (or whatever it's called, the book, not the box set), and it has very little system specific info (mainly races, IIRC), but it might be more than a page. I'll have to check tonight.

 

[radferth]

Oh, duh, and glancing at my own sig, does anyone know if the knew Road of Kings for Hyboria has much system specific stuff. I don't think the old one does, but I don't reference it ofter enough to know.

 

[jdrakeh]

I have the player's guide to the Wilderlands (or whatever it's called, the book, not the box set), and it has very little system specific info (mainly races, IIRC), but it might be more than a page. I'll have to check tonight.

It's more than a page. There is at least one page of game stats for each of the Wilderlands races and classes.

 

[The Lost Muse]

How much more than one? It's an important question, as when I've posted this thread in the past, I have inevitably attracted publishers or fans of certain products trying to pass off books with multiple chapters of rule information for races/feats/etc as 'systemless' setting books.

There is about 8 pages altogether scattered through the first 250.

Everything except for the feats is a sidebar, which I counted as a quarter page a piece, although it generally is less than that. The feats take 4 pages iirc.

New Rules
You can find rules set apart in sidebars, or in sections of their own, as follows:

Animals (Mounts)
Gaketan Mare p66
Drhokkeran Charger p103
Highland Dancer p151

Equipment
Brigandine Armor p96
Sittik Venom p117
Lamellar Armor p131
Cord Armor p155

Feats
Channel Divinity feats p233

Magic Items
Edarn’s Ring of Vanishment p34
Kargi Mourn p115
Mother of Pearls p132

Races
Half-hobgoblin Racial Traits p153

Wizard Spells
Shathy’s Pestilence p108

 

[jdrakeh]

There is about 8 pages altogether scattered through the first 250.

Everything except for the feats is a sidebar, which I counted as a quarter page a piece, although it generally is less than that. The feats take 4 pages iirc.

Arg. Tough call on raising the content limit. My only worry is that doing so lets stuff like the Wilderlands Player's Guide (which is pretty clearly a D&D 3.5 book) into the 'systemless' list when it shouldn't really be there. I'll think on it over lunch today!