Systems that actualy emulate Western movies?

[HellfireVanWinkle]

I'm currently looking for RPG systems that actually emulate Western Movies, you might be confused because there are quite a bit of Western themed tabletop RPGs out there and that's where my point is actually.
For you see, I consider myself a purist, fan of directors such as John Ford, Sam Peckinpah and Sergio Leone. There are many RPGs where you get to play in a Western setting such as Deadlands, but I haven't encountered a system that truly aims to translate for RPGs the codes and themes found in the classics of the directors I mentionned. To keep it with Deadlands, we have an action horror themed RPG where Wild West is a window dressing for a cool aesthetic, this is not a judgement of taste from me, I'm perfectly fine with people enjoying Deadlands, but I wouldn't recommend it to someone who actually wants to do a Western as a RPG campaign. Though my statement requires nuance, as I think that Savage Worlds is well suited for Spaghetti Westerns, but not so much for the truly american classics.
Is there a system that can actually reproduce the movies of Peckinpah and John Ford? If so which one is it?

 

[Aldarc]

What do you want your purist Western Movies TTRPG emulator to do? How does Savage Worlds, for example, work for Spaghetti Westerns but not for "the truly american classics"?

 

[jdrakeh]

Avalon Hill's Gunslinger sits somewhere between a boardgame and a roleplaying game. You assume the roles of individual gunslingers (historical or created from scratch like in a roleplaying game) and act out gunfights. I've used it to run a (very) short roleplaying scenario based loosely on The Searchers, by basically linking a series of gunfights and using the old school approach of adjudicating everything else with the simple application of common sense and roleplay (as in Original D&D, for example).

 

[payn]

While Aces and Eights does a real good job of providing everything you need for an American West story, I found the mechanics kind of maddening. I'd not recommend it.

 

[Morrus]

I think you'd have to list the things you want this system to do, which other systems don't do. Otherwise, it's not clear what it is you're looking for. Is it dysentery rules and inaccurate six-shooters you're after? Simulation-style physics models for mud? Clarification is needed!

 

[Artamo]

Mechanically, I can’t think of a difference between a Spaghetti western and a John Ford Hollywood western. The differences really come down to the themes which are largely outside the rules. At the end of the day, it’s still the white hat versus the black hat whether that’s Clint Eastwood Vs Lee Van Cleef or John Wayne Vs Lee Marvin.

Also, how would you differentiate Peckinpah’s high violence style from Spaghetti Westerns (also high violence, but less slow-motion blood)?

 

[Piperken]

I'm currently looking for RPG systems that actually emulate Western Movies...
...For you see, I consider myself a purist, fan of directors such as John Ford, Sam Peckinpah and Sergio Leone...
...Is there a system that can actually reproduce the movies of Peckinpah and John Ford? If so which one is it?

Two suggestions come immediately to mind; they're both pretty different:

Tales of the Old West (Year Zero Engine)

Frontier Scum (Borg inspired)

 

[Umbran]

For you see, I consider myself a purist, fan of directors such as John Ford, Sam Peckinpah and Sergio Leone. There are many RPGs where you get to play in a Western setting such as Deadlands, but I haven't encountered a system that truly aims to translate for RPGs the codes and themes found in the classics of the directors I mentionned.

Can you be specific about those codes and themes, rather than just reference entire bodies of work?