Szatany's Ultimate Character Classes

[DungeonmasterCal]

Has anyone else on this board seen these? They're found on the WotC messageboard, in the classes and prestige classes forum. This guy has taken the 11 iconic classes and 3 alternative ones and tweaked them to an incredible degree, giving the player options like I've never seen before.

Has anyone tried to play one of these classes? I don't have a link to the them, as each class has it's own link. If anyone wants to check one out, just go to WotC's boards and do a search for Szatany. You can also find them by Googling the name.

 

[devilish]

You can try one thread here and in his signature are links to all
the other classes.

Very interesting stuff -- I wonder how it balances?

If anyone has time (I don't), maybe they can try Upper_Krust's
Grim Tales/Immortals calculations and compare the 2 together.


-- I just tried it on fighter and it came close : in examining the Ultimate
Fighter, if my math is right, it had a score of 114.21% ( -2 for 2 less feats, +6 for specializations/special abilities ) compared to actual fighter of 110.21% [ these numbers show what edge a character class has over monster CR's of the same level]

 

[Kemrain]

Oooh, shiney! I like! And my GM likes, too! Thanks, dungeonmastercal!

- Kemrain the Ultimate.

 

[VirgilCaine]

I like 'em, and have most of them saved, but they seem like a bit too much work to implement without some thought.

 

[DungeonmasterCal]

Oooh, shiney! I like! And my GM likes, too! Thanks, dungeonmastercal!

- Kemrain the Ultimate.

Don't thank me; thank Szatany...whoever he/she is. Of course, not speaking Polish, I might have just thanked Satan...I dunno...hope not...anyway...

I copy/pasted every one of them into a .doc file for my own use. My players can be very resistant to "new ideas" so I doubt I ever get to use them, though.

 

[DungeonmasterCal]

Devilish---

I've scanned a lot of the posts that follow each of the Ultimate Classes, and most of them seem to agree they are fairly balanced. His Ultimate Ranger doesn't have spellcasting capability; even so, some of the posts lean toward over-powered on that one. From what I can tell, Szatany takes these posts to heart and makes adjustments if he/she feels them necessary, in an effort to make these classes as balanced and playable as possible.