*shrug* The way to walk away is to simply not reply. Responding to posturing by escalating to a higher level of posturing is mock-worthy.
Tabletopocalypse Now - GMS' thoughts about the decline in the hobby
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*shrug* The way to walk away is to simply not reply. Responding to posturing by escalating to a higher level of posturing is mock-worthy.
No, I'm thinking of a specific point of fact that anybody who knows what they are talking about knows, and is why book trade sales are not immediately counted as indisputable examples of a trend. It is the reason why the actual creators of the DFRPG are not getting angry at Gareth the way you are on their behalf. DFRPG seems to be a great game, by the way.
The fact that nobody has hit upon this exceedingly obvious fact yet is unfortunate.
Perram
Explorer
Well spit it out, then. What are you talking about that is /so/ obvious?
AdmundfortGeographer
Getting lost in fantasy maps
May I take a dumb-guy guess? Do book trade sales include sales to distributors? Sales to distributors are not sales to buying customers.
Riddle me this: if nobody were selling games on the retail market, who would have ever brought anyone in?
Ultimately, the hobby gets drive from the retail market. Individual groups do not have to be strongly driven by retail in order for this to be true - the sellers work on the aggregate.
eyebeams said:
By the logic I suspect is behind that, then anyone doing Shakespeare is engaging in basic creative failure. And even writing a sonnet is questionable, as you didn't make up the form yourself.
Needless to say, I disagree with you. Sometimes, great creativity comes from working within a structure, rather than blue-sky brand-spanking new creation.
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[MENTION=177]Umbran[/MENTION]:
That would probably be true, if piracy didn't exist.
Not saying I'm an advocate of it, but it's a reality that you don't actually need to cash in to play. Then there is the free-to-play material- tons of it- that any of us hobbyists could turn to in the absence of a retail market.
As long as there is role playing, there will be role playing games. And role playing is second nature to us (humans), just like speaking. Children do it without any encouragement. Even if this branch of RPGing dies off, it's just a matter of time before someone else hitches a set of rules to make-believe so that things start over again.
That would probably be true, if piracy didn't exist.
Not saying I'm an advocate of it, but it's a reality that you don't actually need to cash in to play. Then there is the free-to-play material- tons of it- that any of us hobbyists could turn to in the absence of a retail market.
As long as there is role playing, there will be role playing games. And role playing is second nature to us (humans), just like speaking. Children do it without any encouragement. Even if this branch of RPGing dies off, it's just a matter of time before someone else hitches a set of rules to make-believe so that things start over again.
Dodging the question, got it.
Hungry Like The Wolf
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Um, the same people who bring people into out-of-print games today and the same people who will bring others into soon to be out-of-print games.
Again, I disagree. This might have been true in the 70s/80s/90s but I think your being a bit archaic. With the rise of the internet and it's involvement in everyday life, grass-roots gaming is only going to get stronger and stronger, with or without retail gaming.
Please cut out the, "I know something you don't know," presentation. In order for this to be useful, the audience needs to see you as an authority figure they get encouragement from and want to please. Since you aren't such, in this venue it comes off as condescending and egotistical, so that it is thoroughly non-constructive.
It should go without saying - those who read it as condescending and egotistical should ignore it, and move on, rather than respond to it by butting heads. If you don't like what he's saying, ignore it and move on.
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