Tales from the Yawning Portal vs. Ghosts of Saltmarsh, Part TWO! Vote for your favorite adventures

What are your favorite adventures in Tales from the Yawning Portal and Ghosts of Saltmarsh?

  • The Sunless Citadel

    Votes: 19 38.8%
  • The Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh

    Votes: 23 46.9%
  • Forge of Fury

    Votes: 15 30.6%
  • Danger at Dunwater

    Votes: 5 10.2%
  • The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan

    Votes: 16 32.7%
  • Salvage Operation

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • White Plume Mountain

    Votes: 21 42.9%
  • Isle of the Abbey

    Votes: 5 10.2%
  • Dead in Thay

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • The Final Enemy

    Votes: 2 4.1%
  • Against the Giant

    Votes: 17 34.7%
  • Tammeraut's Fate

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • Tomb of Horrors

    Votes: 13 26.5%
  • The Styes

    Votes: 5 10.2%

  • Total voters
    49

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
In an earlier thread, I asked you what your favorite book was between the Tales from the Yawning Portal and Ghosts of Saltmarsh (spoiler: Ghosts of Saltmarsh is winning by a lot). Now I want to know what your favorite adventures are within the two books. So vote away!
 

briggart

Explorer
FWIW: I've voted (among other things) for Tammeraut's Fate. I really liked the Dragon adventure and was planning of converting it to 5e, when GoS was announced, but haven't actually read the version in the book.
 

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
Oddly, Ghosts of Saltmarsh is winning the best-book poll by a lot, but it's LOSING this poll! Its adventures have only received 17 votes compared to the Yawning Portal's 24. Try to explain that.

Also, lots of love for the lower-level adventures. I guess that's not surprising. More people have probably played them.
 
Oddly, Ghosts of Saltmarsh is winning the best-book poll by a lot, but it's LOSING this poll! Its adventures have only received 17 votes compared to the Yawning Portal's 24. Try to explain that.
Because as I said in the other poll, GoS is better as a sandbox setting book, while TFtYP has better overall adventures. That interconnection makes GoS a better book, but just viewing the adventures themselves... TFtYP is gonna win hands down.
 

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
Looks like if you were to create a super-campaign out of the highest-rated adventures, you would have:

The Sunless Citadel
The Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh
Forge of Fury
The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan
White Plume Mountain
Against the Giants
and either Tomb of Horrors or Tammeraut's Fate (both currently tied at 5 votes each).

Good luck coming up with a cohesive story-line for that assortment of adventures.
 
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Todd Roybark

Explorer
That line up could absolutely work. The downside is both Tamoachan and White Plume mountain have 1e style magic items in a 5e “ We don’t need no stinking magic items” world.
 
That line up could absolutely work. The downside is both Tamoachan and White Plume mountain have 1e style magic items in a 5e “ We don’t need no stinking magic items” world.
There isn't that much loot in The Hidden Shrine, and nothing really powerful. And White Plume Mountain is easy enough to substitute the three powerful items for other stolen treasures that the PCs have to recover (rather than use themselves).
 

Salthorae

Imperial Mountain Dew Taster
There is little loot in Hidden Shrine.

It's great fun, my table had a great time trying to handle the fact that you couldn't rest, etc.
 

Todd Roybark

Explorer
Wait a moment people, are you considering the cursed items in Hidden Shrine to not be magic items?

-Bracelet of Rock Magic—-Cast Flesh to Stone x3.... curse can petrify the wielder in particular circumstances.

-Tloques’ Battleaxe: +2 berserker axe ( Olaf, Metal !😊) that has 12 charges that can be used to cast passwall, gust o’ wind, and burning hands

(in my campaign the axe was powerful enough that a modified Frenzy Barbarian that the player wanted to model the magic item prohibition on the Barb class from 1st edition, forsook her taboos and attuned to the axe....even knowing it was cursed.)


-Stone of Ill Luck.

Beyond these 3 cursed items are 24 other magic items for a total of 27 Magic items.
In Xanathars’ (XGE), on pg 135 under Magic Items Awarded by Tier for character levels 5-10 the book recommends 34 magic items be awarded for the entire tier.

Paul, I mean this as good intentioned kidding, but given you have a degree in astrophysics and teach maths, how is 79.4% (roughly) of the magic items recommended for the 5-10th level tier, all from one single location not a bit abnormal for 5e standards?

Sure there are not the scores of +1 longswords found in 1e and 2e adventures, is that what people are saying, when exclaiming that “ there are not too many magic items” in Shrine?😜

BTW I love Shrine, so my comments in no way are to be perceived as a non-endorsement of the module.
 
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Salthorae

Imperial Mountain Dew Taster
Wait a moment people, are you not considering the cursed items in Hidden Shrine to not be magic items?
Hmm, maybe I should re-phrase.

My party was so focused on getting out because of the deadly fog that they didn't acquire many of the items that were available in the module. So not really much loot.
 

Todd Roybark

Explorer
LOL, Salt, this is akin to walking through a hospital with your eyes closed and exclaiming that there were no sick or injured people because you did not see any.🤣
 

GlassJaw

Adventurer
Interesting that of the clear top 6 highest rated modules, only 1 is from Saltmarsh.

I like GoS as a whole but some of the Saltmarsh modules are either highly flawed or outright bad. I was disappointed that U2 and U3 were essentially reprinted as-is even though they are in serious need of an update. The rest are a mixed bag as well. Some interesting ideas but most need a lot of work.

That said, they did a great job on fleshing out Saltmarsh itself. It's an awesome "home base" for a campaign. Tons of flavor and plot hooks.
 

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
I like GoS as a whole but some of the Saltmarsh modules are either highly flawed or outright bad. I was disappointed that U2 and U3 were essentially reprinted as-is even though they are in serious need of an update. The rest are a mixed bag as well. Some interesting ideas but most need a lot of work.

That said, they did a great job on fleshing out Saltmarsh itself. It's an awesome "home base" for a campaign. Tons of flavor and plot hooks.
I'm in the opposite camp. I love the modules, but I hate the Saltmarsh write-up. I want a sleepy little fishing village, not an intrigue-laden mini-Waterdeep. Luckily, it's easy enough to ignore Chapter 1 and go with what feels right, since none of Chapter 1 is embedded in the modules themselves.
 

Todd Roybark

Explorer
But Prak, it is always the sleepy little town that hides the scary bad...see Innsmouth, Steven King, the Texas Chainsaw massacre, Twin Peaks, and the village of Hommlet.

My players would probably put a village that wasn’t hiding something to the torch, for being too normal. A normal village in D&D is abnormal and must be a sign of the greatest corruption.
 

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
But Prak, it is always the sleepy little town that hides the scary bad...see Innsmouth, Steven King, the Texas Chainsaw massacre, Twin Peaks, and the village of Hommlet.

My players would probably put a village that wasn’t hiding something to the torch, for being too normal. A normal village in D&D is abnormal and must be a sign of the greatest corruption.
It's more that Saltmarsh-as-imagined-in-Ghosts is far too large and bustling for my tastes. The mining company, the military outpost, the barracks, the wealthy councilmen, the mansions, the competing factions, and the guildhall just don't fit my vision of a sleepy little fishing village.

As for dark underbellies, there will definitely be one of those in my version of Saltmarsh: a cult of Sekolah, some of whose members have been transformed into Sea Spawn.
 

GlassJaw

Adventurer
It can still be the sleepy little fishing village. I am absolutely going to give it an Innsmouth vibe. However, it's nice to have some options for fleshing out certain aspects if you see fit. The info on factions is great.

I actually like the idea of a sleepy little (creepy) fishing village that may be getting some attention from the mainland so to speak. Perhaps the cultists feel a need to hasten their plans because of the increased attention...
 

Todd Roybark

Explorer
It's more that Saltmarsh-as-imagined-in-Ghosts is far too large and bustling for my tastes. The mining company, the military outpost, the barracks, the wealthy councilmen, the mansions, the competing factions, and the guildhall just don't fit my vision of a sleepy little fishing village.

As for dark underbellies, there will definitely be one of those in my version of Saltmarsh: a cult of Sekolah, some of whose members have been transformed into Sea Spawn.
I actually agree with you, 100% on that. I would ditch the 1st and go Sea Spawn as well.
I loved the modules from 1e, and I think they still hold up.

My opinion of the chapters in GoS is Chapters 1-7 are great.

I was not fond of The Styes when published in Dragon back in 3e, and Chapter 8 still doesn’t appeal to me, but I absolutely understand why others like it, and it is good for parts, at least, as good modules should be.
 

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
I actually agree with you, 100% on that. I would ditch the 1st and go Sea Spawn as well.
I loved the modules from 1e, and I think they still hold up.

My opinion of the chapters in GoS is Chapters 1-7 are great.

I was not fond of The Styes when published in Dragon back in 3e, and Chapter 8 still doesn’t appeal to me, but I absolutely understand why others like it, and it is good for parts, at least, as good modules should be.
There are things about The Styes that I don't like either, but in general it fits perfectly into what I have planned. The basic story arc of my Ghosts campaign is that the Sahuagin are trying to bring an Avatar of Sekolah into the world, and they have found themselves an unlikely ally: a Sekolah-worshipping aboleth.

The whole juvenile Kraken sub-plot sort of comes out of left-field, though, so I don't plan to include that in my campaign.
 
Wait a moment people, are you considering the cursed items in Hidden Shrine to not be magic items?

-Bracelet of Rock Magic—-Cast Flesh to Stone x3.... curse can petrify the wielder in particular circumstances.
Cursed. (and Flesh to Stone is a pretty useless spell in 5e anyway)

-Tloques’ Battleaxe: +2 berserker axe ( Olaf, Metal !😊) that has 12 charges that can be used to cast passwall, gust o’ wind, and burning hands
Cursed. And if players found it it means they have gone wrong and should be unlikely to make it out alive.

-Stone of Ill Luck.
Cursed, with no beneficial properties whatsoever.

how is 79.4% (roughly) of the magic items recommended for the 5-10th level tier
I think that guideline if for magic items that are actually beneficial.
 

tombakerim

Visitor
I played D&D with Chuck Norris, Bob Ross, Walter “Heisenberg” White, Maynard J. Krebs, and many others. And no, my experience with D&D blogs has not led me to games with famous and often made-up people. Just at my tables, the players used these names, and often the characters for their characters. Sometimes the tone of the game is suitable for funny characters and everyone likes it. For example, I want to play a game where the whole party will be a reference to the Muppets. But other games include collaborative storytelling, including the creation of characters and their world. To appear on this with Bill S. Preston Esquire from the comedy of 1989 is simply a bad manners.
 

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