Temple of Elemental Evil discussion thread (merged)

[Dreeble]

You can rescribe it once you failed another scroll (looks like the memory for failed attempts is rather limited ). So, basically just have a bunch of crap scrolls on you to scribe only if you fail an important one, until you fail one, and then you can retry!

Heya:

Wow, that's very good to know! {SPOILER}Stuff{/SPOILER} with [ and ] instead is for spoilers I think. SPOILER=COLOR for color, right? After my first playthrough, I stopped attacking those rats since they seemed to be the primary source of disease in the entire game. Lastly, not rerolling for hps, etc. is entirely possible since people (lucky people) have completed the game on Ironman mode. Another spell that I think can't be scribe is Melf's Acid Arrow. Once the official patch comes out (supposedly end of this month, so next few days) I'll wait to see if it resolves the permacrash issues. If it (mostly) does, I'll give Ironman another shot. Especially since I've confirmed for myself that getting both Fragglerock and Scather at the same time is doable. Heh.

Take care,
Dreeble

 

[Aquila]

I've had two late game Ironman save destroyed by crashes, one of them was the same rescue-thrommel-return-to-hommlet crash that Dreeble mentioned.

I've pretty much played out the game, and feel that unless the patch adds something pretty special I'm done with it (where is the patch btw, lol)

 

[Dreeble]

Heya:

I've had two late game Ironman save destroyed by crashes, one of them was the same rescue-thrommel-return-to-hommlet crash that Dreeble mentioned.

I've pretty much played out the game, and feel that unless the patch adds something pretty special I'm done with it (where is the patch btw, lol)

Although I don't _think_ the official patch is out yet, there was a description of what was sposta be in it, including preventing crashes caused by going from location to location. If this is for real, then I'll definitely try one more Ironman game. _Then_ I'll be done with the game.

Unless Circle of Eight figures out how to make new dungeons, add creatures, add quests, etc.

Take care,
Dreeble

 

[KenM]

Atari said the patch would be out by end of October, nothing yet. They have a few more hours. Also, the offical Atari fourms are down, been down for a few days. I think its pretty convenent that the fourms are down when the patch is due.

 

[Grog]

Atari said the patch would be out by end of October, nothing yet. They have a few more hours. Also, the offical Atari fourms are down, been down for a few days. I think its pretty convenent that the fourms are down when the patch is due.

Seriously. I am all for them getting the patch right the first time, but this is getting really annoying. Many games are patched within the first week of release. They have had well over a month now and still nothing. I'll definitely think twice about buying any Troika/Atari games in the future.

 

[Aulayan]

I blame Atari for this. Troika wanted another month, Atari didn't give it to them.
Troika was having a couple team members working on a patch, and they had to say online that it may never get released cause it was unknown if Atari was going to hire them to do it. (So they were basically working on it for free at the time). It is now, supposedly, in Atari's hands for QA, and who knows how long Atari will bottleneck it.

 

[Grog]

I blame Atari for this. Troika wanted another month, Atari didn't give it to them.

We'll probably never know exactly what went on, but I wouldn't be so quick to blame Atari. The process could have gone something like this:

Atari rep: "So, you can have the game ready in 18 months, then?"
Troika rep: "Yep, 18 months."

18 months later

Atari rep: "Okay, where's the game?"
Troika rep: "Um... It's not quite done yet."
Atari rep: "What do you mean, it's not quite done yet? We've staked a significant amount of money on it being done at the time you agreed to."

Troika agreed to the 18 month schedule. They didn't deliver. If 18 months wasn't enough time, it was Troika's responsibility to say "18 months is not enough time."

Now, I do agree that Atari shouldn't have released the game in the sorry state it's in, but I don't think we can call Troika totally blameless here.

 

[KenM]

Atari made a statement saying an offical patch was coming, and would be come by end of October. There is even a list of some of the fixes at the ToEE site. Has anyone been able to get to the Atari fourms? Been down for a few days.

 

[zero skill LPB]

atari forums back up

Patch delayed.

New word on patch due Monday 11/3.

 

[Olive]

Is there a demo yet?