Testing the dice roller...

[Theo R Cwithin]

Dice block bug

Some of the dice roll blocks look odd; I've attached an image snapped from a post above, in this thread. Is anyone else seeing this problem? Fwiw, I'm running an old browser (Firefox 2.0.0.20) on an old system (MacOS 10.3.9 PPC)

I've seen this in other places, too. It seems to be related to especially large rolls, though I'm not sure if its the big die, the sum of many die, the number of digits in the result, or what. I'll do some test rolls shortly to see if it can be narrowed down.

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

dice roll test...


All look ok, except the following ones, which exhibit the behavior I posted about above:

- the duplicated on from the previous post (15d4+...)
- the "big roll one die" (403d8), which blocks off an even bigger section of the post.
- Aha! the Nd6 rolls at the end show bigger blocks with bigger numbers of dice rolled!

 

[IronWolf]

Some of the dice roll blocks look odd; I've attached an image snapped from a post above, in this thread. Is anyone else seeing this problem? Fwiw, I'm running an old browser (Firefox 2.0.0.20) on an old system (MacOS 10.3.9 PPC)

The browser is approaching 2 years old which is a *really* long time in computer tech terms. The newer versions of Firefox up to and including FireFox 3.6 support the system you are running I believe, is there a reason that you've chosen to remain on Firefox 2.x?

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

The browser is approaching 2 years old which is a *really* long time in computer tech terms. The newer versions of Firefox up to and including FireFox 3.6 support the system you are running I believe, is there a reason that you've chosen to remain on Firefox 2.x?

Yes, I know it's ancient. However, so is my OS. Unfortunately, that version of Firefox is the latest one that supports the OS. I can't upgrade my browser til I upgrade my computer.

That notwithstanding, the fact that the problem is tied to very specific dice rolls suggests it's something on the dice roller side being inserted into the the html, which is then being oddly interpreted on my end. Ultimately, it's not terribly important.

In any event, I'm about to crack open the page sourcecode to see if I can find anything. Also, I'm still running experiments in my post above, BTW, to try to pin it down. (Note that that post will slowly grow. Apologies! Let me know if it's a problem and I'll stop.)

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

Final "bug report" and some info.

OK it looks like it's related to the number of dice that get rolled, whether they're all one die-type or several die types added together. Here's a snapshot of my screen showing 20, 50 and 100d6, in which you can see the dice blocks getting larger with increasing number of dice rolled:

I looked at the source code, and I see thousands of lines like:

<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_4.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_4.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_1.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_5.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_3.png" /><br />
 <img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_5.png" />
 <img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_1.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_3.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_1.png" />

As I mentioned above, I do have an old browser, so this is likely low-prority. But all those strange <img>'s in the code look suspicious to me as they don't seem to correspond to anything on the screen except empty space, except that the bigger the dice blocks the more <img> tags there are. I don't know if they're being generated on my side or on ENWorld's-- I don't know much about web coding.

Anyway, I'm done with that. Let me know if you want any more info, or if you can determine that it's clearly something on my end and not a hidden bug on ENWorld's.

 

[IronWolf]

Yes, I know it's ancient. However, so is my OS. Unfortunately, that version of Firefox is the latest one that supports the OS. I can't upgrade my browser til I upgrade my computer.

Ah - my fault. I was caught up in verifying PPC support and missed that the 3.5 and 3.6 branches had a min requirement of OS X 10.4.

 

[Hypersmurf]

But all those strange <img>'s in the code look suspicious to me as they don't seem to correspond to anything on the screen except empty space, except that the bigger the dice blocks the more <img> tags there are. I don't know if they're being generated on my side or on ENWorld's-- I don't know much about web coding.

On anyone else's browser, each of those images is a little picture of a die of the appropriate size. So if you roll 6d6, you get a picture of a d6 showing a 3, and two pictures showing a 5, and one showing a 2, etc, depending on the roll.

Does your browser handle .png images?

-Hyp.

 

[Morrus]

OK it looks like it's related to the number of dice that get rolled, whether they're all one die-type or several die types added together. Here's a snapshot of my screen showing 20, 50 and 100d6, in which you can see the dice blocks getting larger with increasing number of dice rolled:

I looked at the source code, and I see thousands of lines like:

<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_4.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_4.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_1.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_5.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_3.png" /><br />
 <img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_5.png" />
 <img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_6.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_1.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_3.png" /> 
<img src="http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_1.png" />

As I mentioned above, I do have an old browser, so this is likely low-prority. But all those strange <img>'s in the code look suspicious to me as they don't seem to correspond to anything on the screen except empty space, except that the bigger the dice blocks the more <img> tags there are. I don't know if they're being generated on my side or on ENWorld's-- I don't know much about web coding.

Anyway, I'm done with that. Let me know if you want any more info, or if you can determine that it's clearly something on my end and not a hidden bug on ENWorld's.

That code is the basic HTML image code. The code is supposed to be there - each is an image of a dice.

Why they're not showing in your browser, I have no idea. I've never come across a browser that doesn't render <image> tags! They're being blocked by something on your end, because your code example shows you're being delivered the correct HTML.

For example, visit one of those URLs directly in your browser. Any one of them at random, say:

http://www.enworld.org/newsimages/dice/d6_5.png

That's the URL of a picture of a d6 with the 5 showing up.

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

Yes, I understand the <img> tags are images, and that it's strange they're not rendering; I'm pretty sure that's an issue on my end, since I can see other images. What I thought was odd was that there are thousands and thousands of them. However, it sounds like that's the intended behavior.

So just to clarify:
(1) If I roll 230d8, I should see 230 individual images of d8s, each showing an individual roll?
(2) And therefore the dice roll blocks are supposed to be different sizes?

...Which would mean I blasted the previous page with a gazillion images? Oops! In any event, thanks for the responses and for helping me clear this up.

 

[Morrus]

So just to clarify:
(1) If I roll 230d8, I should see 230 individual images of d8s, each showing an individual roll?
(2) And therefore the dice roll blocks are supposed to be different sizes?

Yup! Check out today's news page (assuming THAT image shows for you....!) to see an example of what you should be seeing.

!...Which would mean I blasted the previous page with a gazillion images? Oops! .

And yup! We'd really better put a limit on it!