The 1701 reaches 1000 missions!

[Darth K'Trava]

I don't honestly remember which company did the 'con, but I know it was billed as a Star Trek convention - not a misc sci-fi/fantasy con, or anything like that. I had never heard of Fantasm before your post just now - I went and looked it up, and I can safely say that no, I have not nor will I be attending anything like that. The only costumes Mystra or I have ever dressed up in have been standard Star Trek or Star Wars stuff - I do love handing out candy at Halloween in the Vader costume.

No telling then.... I'm sure the con organizers were as shocked as the fans when they heard that come out....

Feel safe in the fact that, according to my sources, that it's the LAST Fantasm!! It was mature the first year and went waaaay beyond the icky, sick gutter after that!

I've usually done the standard Star Trek or Star Wars garb myself. Even went so far as to, the last time I got my driver's license renewed, wear part of the costume for the pic... Dunno if I'll do it this time around....

I'm pondering whether or not to drag out the Klingon Garb for the Enterprise finale party..... Whee.... Three layers of hot costuming.

It has been almost a decade, and I've tried to forget as much of her speech as possible, but it had something to do with her getting tennis elbow or carpal tunnel or something, and it being from masturbation, and someone telling her to tell people it came from playing Tetris, which she really did get into afterward - or something like that.

Yet it won't go away.....

I used to play Tetris for a several hour stretch one time and never had any "tennis elbow" or carpal tunnel" from it.... Must've been from her other "extracurricular activity"...

And to think Bill's got the hots for her..... :\ ::twitch:: And the fact that she's gonna be at Dragoncon this year..... Mebbe I should have him ask her about "playing Tetris"....

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Hey everyone! A quick hijack of the hijack: If, as has been suggested, a "re-envisioning" is the next step for Trek, what changes in the premise would you like to see, and who should play the roles?

I'd like to see them define the tech a little better for the writers: No more crew transported in as children because of changes in their DNA the transporter shouldn't have paid any attention to. No more firing large amounts of "particle of the week" through the deflector dish. And all of it a little flakier - makes for better plot hooks, and gives McCoy a REASON to fear the transporters.

Yeah. Make it seem more realistically possible. And not drown it in technobabble like TNG was sooo fond of doing.

Also, I'd like to see 'em go through the current military regs, and make sure that if we ALREADY know it is stupid, we wouldn't be doing it in the future.

They should more closely follow some sort of "military procedure" if they're gonna be portrayed as a military organization (Starfleet). Show they're different than the civilians.

Maybe they should go back to what made Trek Trek. Go back to the classic formula and make it more comprehensive for the modern era. Classic Trek worked so well with the "modern day" issues being modified to look like an "alien issue" but you could tell it was their way of addressing the issues of the time period.

Make well-liked, well-fleshed-out characters that people would LOVE to see week after week. Have some sort of continuity from episode to episode or season to season. Show some growth between the characters. Show what makes them "tick". Show why we WANT to watch them evolve each week. And make the humans HUMAN, and the aliens, ALIEN. Not just a bunch of humans with funky face makeup!

 

[mojo1701]

And make the humans HUMAN, and the aliens, ALIEN. Not just a bunch of humans with funky face makeup!

You're right. This isn't the '60s





...or the '90s.

 

[Torm]

They should more closely follow some sort of "military procedure" if they're gonna be portrayed as a military organization (Starfleet). Show they're different than the civilians.

Oh - there's another thing I'd like to see them get straight for the writers upfront - the economic system(s). In a system with, for all intents and purposes, near limitless resources, you would have one of two situations, as far as I can tell:

1. Everyone gets anything they want as far as needs and material goods are concerned. About 10% of the humans actually make advances and help sustain the system - Starfleet, Space Marines, Earth Defense Force, the Engineering Corp, stuff like that. Everyone else farts around doing whatever hobby-type stuff they want. An unfair burden is put on the Vulcans, whose system of c'thia (logic and ethics) won't allow them NOT to contribute - so they end up doing a lot of the work.

 

[Torm]

-continued- (Sorry, I seem to be having trouble making longer posts this evening.)

2. Everyone gets the bare minimum needs fulfilled - think Japanese business class economy hotels. But to motivate people, the government controls most of the resources to get more - bigger home, better food, knick-knacky stuff, etc. - and rewards people with credits based on their contribution in society to use to get those things. An unfair burden is put on the Vulcans, since their system of c'thia makes them the best ones to maintain the system: Individual Vulcans charged with the responsibility are much less likely to go corrupt and give their friends a bunch of credits or such.

 

[Torm]

Classic Trek worked so well with the "modern day" issues being modified to look like an "alien issue" but you could tell it was their way of addressing the issues of the time period.

Indeed. Where is our homosexual marriage episode, or our abortion episode, or.... Even when they finally HAD a gay character on the bridge - Lt. Hawk from ST:First Contact - they barely bothered to tell anyone, and they killed him off immediately. Don't ask, don't tell, I guess.

 

[Torm]

And make the humans HUMAN, and the aliens, ALIEN. Not just a bunch of humans with funky face makeup!

Right. I like the idea that the reason we got along so well with the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites was because of how similar they were to us, and the reason we went to war with the Klingons and the Romulans was again, because they were very similar to us and the Vulcans, and most species are VERY different. "Species 8472 before Voyager wussed them out" different. "Borg when Q first introduced us and they were scary, before First Contact made them stupid by introducing a queen" different.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Indeed. Where is our homosexual marriage episode, or our abortion episode, or.... Even when they finally HAD a gay character on the bridge - Lt. Hawk from ST:First Contact - they barely bothered to tell anyone, and they killed him off immediately. Don't ask, don't tell, I guess.

Guess what! You can write that controversial Trek episode that has something to do with your lifestyle!! Talk about something that'll knock 'em wild!

I didn't even know that Lt. Hawk was even gay! Unless it was in the book or quickly glossed over so fast that we missed it....

I guess it's more like, "Don't ask, don't tell, or you die!"

 

[Crothian]

Next Generation had two episdoes that almost delat with homsexualityy. The first was when Riker fell in the sexless character or the third gender person. THen there was the one where Dr Crusher fell for the TRill that got placed in afemale body after the male one died.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Oh - there's another thing I'd like to see them get straight for the writers upfront - the economic system(s). In a system with, for all intents and purposes, near limitless resources, you would have one of two situations, as far as I can tell:

1. Everyone gets anything they want as far as needs and material goods are concerned. About 10% of the humans actually make advances and help sustain the system - Starfleet, Space Marines, Earth Defense Force, the Engineering Corp, stuff like that. Everyone else farts around doing whatever hobby-type stuff they want. An unfair burden is put on the Vulcans, whose system of c'thia (logic and ethics) won't allow them NOT to contribute - so they end up doing a lot of the work.

I think there's some sort of "credit" system that they have.... but it's rarely mentioned. They should have a setup sorta like the Ferengi but maybe something along the lines of our "credit cards" and having paperless "money"... It seems like where does all this stuff come from and WHO PAYS FOR IT?!?! There's gotta be some sort of work system like we have now...