The 3 reasons why I am done with WotC

[Nightfall]

Don,

Useful? Come on...It's only useful IF you can look at it. Buying it sight unseen and THEN finding out it sucks...well doesn't work for me.


Banshee,

Maybe this change will be the turn around for d20. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Vocenoctum]

1. The game has gotten more popular and the value has gone up. Inflation sucks, but that's life.

I'm sure the profit margin is still up there, but costs HAVE been on the rise. Plastic is going up, shipping too.

3. I've worked in the magazine business. IT's brutal and very difficult to make a profit in. Don't believe me. Buy the 2005 writer's digest. Then pick up the 2007 writers digest. over 40 percent of the magazines in the 2005 are no longer in the 2007 version. 90 percent of all new magazines go under within a year. Most magazines have a shelflife of 10 to 20 years. Dungeon and Dragon just didn't fit in with Wotc's future plans. The magazines are not going anyway. They are just turning them into electronic magazines. It is much easier to maintain and utilize reference material electronically. I and other subscribers have been asking for this for years. It sucks that I won't have my favorite bathroom reading material, but at least I'll have something far more useful.

As I said in the other thread, I'm sure plenty of folks are surprised that Dragon & Dungeon have lasted as long as they have.

 

[Nightfall]

Voc,

Compared to what, Time Warner, Amazon.com, Google? Come on...it's a factor of good writing AND good editors.

 

[Piratecat]

What do you say we keep the thread on topic instead of insulting the original poster, eh?

 

[Nightfall]

PC,

Sorry if I came across that way.

But yeah let's not be mean to a guy that says "Hey I'm not buying this!" That's his right.

 

[Glyfair]

I'm sure the profit margin is still up there, but costs HAVE been on the rise. Plastic is going up, shipping too.

Plus China is undergoing changes that are causing costs their to rise. I read a report not too long ago that stated they were trying to slow down their economy's growth so that their inflation doesn't rise so fast that there is a major crisis. That sort of situation is going to lead to higher production costs at some point, if it hasn't already happened. Perhaps drastically higher.

All that being said, the OP never said that the price increase was unreasonable. Just more than they wanted to spend for that product.

 

[Nightfall]

Gly,

Not to mention spend more on a product they felt wasn't as quality as it once was...

 

[Agamon]

I used to have a lot of 3rd party stuff, but I was using it less and less. Most of the stuff I got use from was Fantasy Flight Games, but even then it was very DM dependent.

I liked a lot of GR stuff, but frankly it rarely saw use, and that's what's important for me.

WotC gets my money because the books I buy from them are generally useful to some degree. This won't change because the magazines are gone.

Funny, I see it the other way around. I got very little 3rd party stuff back in the day, because there was such an infusion of it and it was hard to wade through the crap to find the diamonds. Nowadays, the cream has risen to the top, and it's a lot easier to see the good 3rd party stuff for what it is.

 

[Nightfall]

Ag,

Agreed, especially since now there's about...10-20 companies I see online and I buy most of that from the ones I trust and know.

 

[was]

I don't know, there was a time when I'd only buy core stuff. I now find that most of my purchases are third party materials. I just seem to find myself disillusioned by the direction WotC is taking.