The Adventures of the Knights of Spellforge Keep

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Wee Jas said:
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Regen 5. How does that make me invulnerable? Whats the diff?


Doc may want to break MY skull for saying this, but...OK, Regeneration is different from fast healing. Any damage you take is considered subdual damage. (usually fire and acid are able to bypass this, but that has to be specified in the type of regeneration). Since you're an Undead you're immune to subdual. Ta daaa, you can no longer be physically harmed.

Grumbar is a fighter not a barbarian.

Ah ok then. Still would be very useful for him, but then I don't know how your party is equipped.

Finally, I don't think you can put a touch spell (Harm) into a Glyph. (edit: Well, t says any spell, but doesn't say how a touch range spell can be triggered. Up to the DM I guess. I would say that you have to actually touch the glyph for it to go off) I will say beware though...Big A still has that enemy Lich captain floating around somewhere...hey maybe he could impersonate you? All you lichs look alike to me, especially when covered in black Full Plate ;)
 
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Taren Seeker said:


Doc may want to break MY skull for saying this, but...OK, Regeneration is different from fast healing. Any damage you take is considered subdual damage. (usually fire and acid are able to bypass this, but that has to be specified in the type of regeneration). Since you're an Undead you're immune to subdual. Ta daaa, you can no longer be physically harmed.


Yup. Take a look at R in the MM. It's not fire and acid though (that's a troll thing). Some demons/devils have it and they only take normal damage from blessed weapons, for example.

What is your weakness Vek?
 


Wee Jas, not to keep beating a dead horse but I have the module (I'm thinking of running it) and Doc has modified it, but the dwarf is exactly as written.

I find it interesting that you justify your non-heroic action by slighting the dwarf for not being heroic. Vek doesn't strike me as a shining becon of purity and truth; why aren't you just taking Edge's line of "I wanted the money?" Look at the justification you're giving: "he wanted to live so he should be happy we left him with his scummy life, let alone some cash." Come on, is there a maximum amount of property you're allowed to own based on your moral virtue? You say he had two choices but he didn't any - you just robbed him. He didn't say "hey, I'd like to buy a ring of sustenance for 50,000 gp."

Frankly, from your tone of your posts here I suspect you know darn well it was out of character. Well, out of character for a hero; for all I know Vek has "chaotic evil" on his sheet. It's your attempts at making it upright and just I find strange. You clearly have no ground to stand on.

Dr Midnight, so nobody gave him the ring or furs and you "GM forced" it? Wow, the party was outright evil then.
 

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Frankly, from your tone of your posts here I suspect you know darn well it was out of character. Well, out of character for a hero; for all I know Vek has "chaotic evil" on his sheet.


Actually, it's LN.
 

Frankly, from your tone of your posts here I suspect you know darn well it was out of character.

Like I said I had no part in taking it but when I heard his money had been taken I didn't stop it. I don't consider it his in the 1st place. When it comes time to divy up treasure I'll insit a fair share of the dragons loot goes to Verbobonc and its inhabitants. I really could care less about the gems but care not for the dwarf's hurt feelings either.

As a player I justify the party's actions on how the dwarf was role-played.
 

Yes, let's blame Doc.

He set this all up intentionally becuase he loves conflict. The man craves this kind of thing like a drug.

So Doc, you've had your fun but now it's time to come clean. You can quit, we can help you. All you have to do to start is admit you have a problem. ;)
 

I personally like Doc's problem. <handing scraps out under the table...>. It definitely stirs up a lot of conversation and is helping him reach PKitty's post count ;)

I can't blame Doc for how its written, but I do see that the knights have a history of "dropping the ball" when it comes to role-playing the good vs. evil and law vs. chaos alignments. BUT, I also think that was one of the things that brings everybody to the story hour. These aren't your regular heros, these guys realize that you can't just beat up your enemies and take their stuff. Thats stealing! No, if you kill them, then its the spoils of war! :) Anyway, I have to admit that what got me hooked here was that the party is dysfunctional to begin with. I mean we had a fallen Paladin, a nincompoop who touches everything in sight, regardless of consequence, a few side-kicks, and a tweaked-out uber-munchkin. wait, I was already harrassed for that... munchkin == "heavily researched character concept". :D

Anyway, I don't think Vek should take the posts personally. Right or wrong, its the story, and it drives us forward to more interesting story lines!

Vek's favorite pal,
Dursk.

PS: I don't think stealing is lawful. :cool:

PPS: Don't take my Knight-name calling personally. I love the knights, its just how a dwarf displays his affection. :)
 
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Vek is the unsleeping watchman. He could hardly have missed what was going on. This is innocent like a mafia boss - you don't commit the crime, you just profit from it.

If it was just hurt feelings I wouldn't have a problem with it. Stealing tens of thousands of gold (if I remember the module correctly) it a touch more than hurt feelings. I find it especially strange from a LN, who I would expect to worry about precise laws first. "I didn't like him" is hardly a legal reason for robbery. If you really thought he was evil why didn't you kill him on the spot? If you had doubts later I'm sure you have more than enough divination magic to find out his alignment, past history, and the color of his mother's beard.

As for giving a share to the city, I'll be curious to learn how big a share - and how much bigger your personal gain was by including the diamonds.
 

Vek is the unsleeping watchman

Yeah but his player is not. I had to sneak in cuddle time with my girlfriend and son while some players were doing other things. Vek was probably "talking with the dragon" if they were taken in the night. I'm pretty sure Edge had just been taking them from him as we went along. He isn't here to say what happened so I'm not sure but I think things were changed for the story.

I don't approve of the way the gems where taken but I'm glad they were.
 

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