The Avengers (SPOILERS BEWARE0

[Jemal]

Y'know, the sad thing is I used to love Hulk as a kid, but I've been disheartened by years of superhero RPG'ing. Nobody ever wants to play Batman or Captain America or Spider-Man. Everybody wants to be Hulk or Tick or some other lunk. It's been very rare that I've found a player who fantasizes about being clever or resourceful hero rather than simply a powerful, dumb, violent one.

Odd, considering how many super-hero games I play, and I've found quite the opposite. Most of the characters I encounter are more finesse/wit than brute smash. The brute characters often have less to contribute outside of straight fighting.

And as far as Coulson, I can totally see Fury smearing the cards in his blood for that extra added push. Why let such a good man die and not make his death mean something?

 

[Azgulor]

The movie doesn't direct,y reference either Hulk movie. The official tie-in comic series "Nick Fury's Big Week" (or something - can't remember the name) depicts Black Widow witnessing some of the events of the Norton movie.

Actually, the Norton film is referenced. Banner makes a reference to it when he tells Black Widow "Last time I was in New York, I kind of broke Harlem." (or something close) which references the climactic battle of that film.

Additionally, there's the Iron Man cameo/tie-in in that film and "The Consultant" short on the Thor DVD that directly links the Norton film with the Avengers by cementing the Hulk-Shield-Iron Man connection.

 

[jonesy]

Interview with Kevin Feige, Marvel Entertainment CEO:
AVENGERS EXCLUSIVE: Kevin Feige Interview - SPOILER WARNING!!!

He talks about Coulson at the end. What happened wasn't up to Josh, it was a decision by Marvel.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Interview with Kevin Feige, Marvel Entertainment CEO:
AVENGERS EXCLUSIVE: Kevin Feige Interview - SPOILER WARNING!!!

He talks about Coulson at the end. What happened wasn't up to Josh, it was a decision by Marvel.

Sadly the Marvel 616 U now has Agent Coulson and a black Nick Fury (Jr.)... so there is little reason to rez him for now.. Of course he could always have been a skrull, doombot or living decoy...

 

[Zaukrie]

Just saw it. The entire audience laughed, and laughed hard and long when Hulk smashed Loki. Great, great movie. Had to see it in 3D, and the 3D never got in the way. It was actually pretty good.

But really, that was a great movie.

 

[Joker]

I don't see what the connection you are making there is.

Making the audience relate to characters isn't meta. It's just standard storytelling. And Coulson was injured, at least. How badly is the question.

I didn't explain myself right. My initial question had nothing to do with the concepts of character development or building sympathy with the audience.
Earlier in the thread some people hypothesized that Coulson might not be dead because we don't see him actually dead dead. I inferred from this that some people thought that him and Nick Fury were plotting to get the Avengers together by faking his death. I contended that it would be strange to have a final words death scene if they were in cahoots on this.

As an aside, do people in other places have the option of seeing it as a regular IMAX version? Here in Amsterdam I can choose between 3D and IMAX 3D. 3D still feels a bit like a watching a really good cam or watching your neighbours TV, from outside.

 

[Kzach]

Earlier in the thread some people hypothesized that Coulson might not be dead because we don't see him actually dead dead. I inferred from this that some people thought that him and Nick Fury were plotting to get the Avengers together by faking his death. I contended that it would be strange to have a final words death scene if they were in cahoots on this.

I don't see what's so strange about it. Obviously he was critically injured and dying was a real possibility. After being taken to an infirmary he could be alive or dead due to his injuries, we don't know. But that scene is perfectly valid either way.

 

[Joker]

I don't see what's so strange about it. Obviously he was critically injured and dying was a real possibility. After being taken to an infirmary he could be alive or dead due to his injuries, we don't know. But that scene is perfectly valid either way.

Yeah, I mentioned that it could explained away with a few lines of dialogue in a later movie. I'm not criticizing the scene or its effect in any way. All I'm saying is that there is nothing in the movie, as is, that shows that Nick Fury and Coulson had planned to push the Avengers into action by faking his death.

 

[Felon]

Funny, I've always wanted to play in a super's game with a character I invented called "Blackout". Although he had a significant power (could drain electricity around him and redirect it) and was good at hand to hand and acrobatics, his main strength was being resourceful and clever and using his enemies weaknesses against them as well as his allies strengths and would often take down his enemies (think King Pin style gangs) through cunning manipulation of events (think Burn Notice) rather than direct conflict.

Odd, considering how many super-hero games I play, and I've found quite the opposite. Most of the characters I encounter are more finesse/wit than brute smash. The brute characters often have less to contribute outside of straight fighting.

Yes, this is always the kind of stuff I hear, and never the kind of stuff I experience. More frustrating with each passing year.

 

[Kzach]

Yes, this is always the kind of stuff I hear, and never the kind of stuff I experience. More frustrating with each passing year.

Run an online game?