The Avengers (SPOILERS BEWARE0

[Umbran]

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Loki - But for every hero we need a villain. And despite being outnumbered, Loki proves more than an able adversary for the entire team. When we last left him in Thor, Loki was a confused and spiteful soul who wanted to do right by his family, but here he's a cunning and malicious psycho who clearly enjoys doing bad. And all the credit to Tom Hiddleston for playing the God of Mischief with gutso. One of the nest villain performances in a superhero film IMO.

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And his whole reasoing is because we humans are made to be subjugated? Lame.

No. See what you mentioned above. His whole reasoning is that Thor *loves* the Earth. Loki, in both the mythology and the comics, is ultimately driven by jealousy. You said he was a confused and spiteful character in Thor. You were correct. The only difference in The Avengers is that he's not confused anymore.

 

[Kzach]

No. See what you mentioned above. His whole reasoning is that Thor *loves* the Earth. Loki, in both the mythology and the comics, is ultimately driven by jealousy. You said he was a confused and spiteful character in Thor. You were correct. The only difference in The Avengers is that he's not confused anymore.

It wasn't just jealousy. I thought they made it pretty clear that Loki thought he deserved to be a ruler, a King of Kings. Denied that in Asgard or Jotunheim, he takes up the opportunity to rule Earth instead. The ultimate desire is to be recognised and worshiped.

 

[Plane Sailing]

No need for spoiler tags in the spoiler thread.

Yup. Stark makes a few cracks earlier in the movie about eating whatever the hell shwewaaarww whatever is. And the after credits scene shows them eating it.

Still no idea what schwammmrrraaarm or whatever it is, though.

They didn't have that at my uk (cineworld) showing - I stayed through to the closing of the curtains just in case there was an extra, but no dice. Unless it was on the 3d print and not the 2d for some reason (I saw it in 2d)

 

[Plane Sailing]

Still love The Hulk, certainly love what they do with him in The Avengers, but on the other hand, he represents a bit of a bette noir.

now I want to create a superheroine called Betty Noir!

 

[jonesy]

They didn't have that at my uk (cineworld) showing - I stayed through to the closing of the curtains just in case there was an extra, but no dice. Unless it was on the 3d print and not the 2d for some reason (I saw it in 2d)

It hadn't been filmed when the international premiere happened. They talked about going back to film an extra scene for the U.S. release.

 

[Piratecat]

That bonus scene was utterly silent. Everyone sitting slumped around the table, exhausted from a hard day of "work", eating takeout while an old guy sweeps up in back and Mark Ruffalo tries not to laugh. Completely brilliant.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I went in afraid Ironman would steal the show, thinking they can't pull off a whole team of badass and still make it feel right, and hopeing for no helacarriar becuse I wanted sheild to feel real. I also just assumed that the 'normal' hawkeye and black widow would be BMX bandet to Hulk Thor and Iron man's angel summoner.

I was wrong on all counts. If anything Hulk/Banner stole the show. I think the fight between Hawkeye and Widow showed why they are the best in the world, and at the end they where needed just as much as hulk.

I was suprised Hill was used instead of Sharon Carter or Dum Dum Dugen, but it worked. I was very plesently suprised she didn't try to undermind fury with the nuke bit.

I was upset for a moment when Loki made widow cry "your a monster" I thought they totaly messed up the character... just to turn around and get the crowning moment of Awsome seconds later with "Thanks Loki".

The only moment I am unsure of is a hulk moment, the "I'm always angry" just didn't feel right to me.

Thanos was a great revale, but I wonder witch movie he shows up in next... Avengers 2, or Thor 2, or Captian America 2, or Iron man 3?

No matter what I will be upset if Dr Banner is not in Iron man 3.

People are talking about spin off movies, I want to see a sheild Movie. Fury, Hill, Hawkeye, Widow can all be in it (Damn I miss Colson already) and you could totaly set up something like AIM as the bad guys.


I know some of the marvel properties (like web head and the mutants) are held by other studios, but Punisher and Ghost Rider are both still Marvel. I wonder if we could atleast get Nick Cage into AVengers 2.

I wonder if Luke Cage and Iron Fist could hold a movie now after this too, or atleast a guest spot in one of the sequals comeing out.

 

[Umbran]

It wasn't just jealousy. I thought they made it pretty clear that Loki thought he deserved to be a ruler, a King of Kings.

Well, yeah, but why does he think that? He was raised as brother to Thor, who is? Heir to Asgard!

They've made it super-clear in Thor and Avengers that there's an entire universe of worlds out there. He could make a try for any of them. Dare we say that one that isn't guarded by Thor would be just a tad easier? But he goes after Earth anyway?

 

[MarkB]

Well, yeah, but why does he think that? He was raised as brother to Thor, who is? Heir to Asgard!

And he saw Thor grow into a hot-head who wasn't fit to rule, and grew mad with jealousy, believing himself to be better qualified.

Plus, he's the son of Laufey, king of the Frost Giants, heir to a kingdom in his own right.

They've made it super-clear in Thor and Avengers that there's an entire universe of worlds out there. He could make a try for any of them. Dare we say that one that isn't guarded by Thor would be just a tad easier? But he goes after Earth anyway?

At the time, it wasn't guarded by Thor. With the Bifrost broken, Asgard was cut off from other realms by conventional means. We still don't know exactly how Thor made the trip, but Loki suggests it must have taken all of Odin's power to accomplish.

Plus, the Tesseract is on Earth, and that's the price of admission for Loki's army. Since he has to go there anyway, it's as good a place to rule as any - and it's somewhere he's familiar with.

Plus, the Asgardians have been there before, and they were treated as gods by the Norsemen they befriended. Loki truly does believe that if he walks back in and makes a show of strength, humanity will bow down just as their ancestors did a few centuries ago.

 

[Felon]

Thanos was a great revale, but I wonder witch movie he shows up in next... Avengers 2, or Thor 2, or Captian America 2, or Iron man 3?

Perhaps some are too young to remember Thanos' debut, but it was a story arc that ran through several different Marvel titles. It was a crossover event before "crossover event" was an accepted term. So, perhaps he'll pose a thread throughout IM3 and whatever else Marvel churns out.

Gotta say, I wish we could The Vision on the team, but to do it in even a remotely canonical sense requires a tiered approach. You'd have to have Hank Pym, then Ultron, then Vision.

So, the big question people are asking is if there's any justification for Hulk's sudden surge of team spirit. Sure, he sucker-punches Thor, but he saves Iron Man. That's a big change of heart from almost going Ike Turner on Black Widow.