The Coming Doom...

[Salad Shooter]

Wait I can compare industries that have nothing to do with each other too!

Ehh...I believe the gaming industry and the RP industry are at least slightly related, both involving, you know, games...and hey, the elevator butler people aren't completely gone, fancy schmancy hotels and stuff have them occasionally. But by that logic, only the upper-upper-class are going to be roleplaying if what Vigilance says is true! Well...the way the prices of d20 products have been going these days...

edit: Me spell goooood

 

[Umbran]

Just a late night observation. I hope I'm wrong, for
the sake of a lot of folks and their dreams.

Ah. Late at night is not the best time for observations. It is a tiem when things often look most gloomy. Night is when our fears come out to stalk us, when our rational minds are tired and at their least potent...

For example - before making this observation, did you gather any data? Have you actually looked at the number of d20 publishers, and how their population has risen and declined since the OGL and d20 license came about? If you haven't done that, can you say that your fears have any basis?

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Wait I can compare industries that have nothing to do with each other too!

Watch...

I heard there used to be people who operated elevators... then the whole market collapsed and they have machines that do it... you just push a button and the elevator goes by itself.

The similarites are uncanny!

The d20 market is going to collapse just like that!

Chuck

Uhm... I think it is not the best of ideas to go overly sarcastic and condescending on one of the bigjobs around here, but I hope and assume that you didn't mean to be that way.

 

[BlueBlackRed]

I'm probably skirting the rules of posting but...

Come on people!
Make your own game or play an old one.
Just stop the whining.
Sheesh.

 

[Michael Morris]

Ah. Late at night is not the best time for observations. It is a tiem when things often look most gloomy. Night is when our fears come out to stalk us, when our rational minds are tired and at their least potent...

For example - before making this observation, did you gather any data? Have you actually looked at the number of d20 publishers, and how their population has risen and declined since the OGL and d20 license came about? If you haven't done that, can you say that your fears have any basis?

Uhm, does research mean swing 3 shots of tequilla (er, Niquill - both have alchohol) trying to get drowsy enough to sleep through a mild cold. Meanwhile I'm watching Icons on my TiVo and the episode about the videogame crash came on...

There are similarities - but there are a lot of differences. And 2wSteve is right, there've been multiple crashes as folks put together one book and it inevitably sinks. So they quit and another group tries. At the lowest level the market is like a pulsating blob with constantly changing players.

Odd. Yeah.

Come to think of it, I was probably drunk - so feel free to forget the whole thread

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Sir Elton, I believe you missed one RPG - Paranoia XP!

 

[Remathilis]

The Coming Doom...

You mean Doom 4 right? Doom 3 was awesome...

 

[Angel Tarragon]

What about Doom Forever? Fat chance of that.

 

[Nisarg]

I think the original poster is missing the fact that the crash similar to Atari's 1983 crash already did happen in roleplaying... around 1983.

Back in the late 70s everyone and their brother were releasing RPGs in small publishing companies, producing fantasy heartbreakers and any old crap, and there were literally HUNDREDS of RPGs that had small print runs, that no one remembers today.

By 1983 this started "crashing" into a situation where only the very best of these amateurs (GURPS; CoC; Palladium; etc) could "go pro" and survive, and the rest disappeared... after that there was always the occasional flare-up of small companies producing fantasy heartbreakers, but nothing like what there was in those first six years of the RPG hobby.

Nisarg

 

[Vigilance]

Uhm... I think it is not the best of ideas to go overly sarcastic and condescending on one of the bigjobs around here, but I hope and assume that you didn't mean to be that way.

Hey!

He posted a thread saying "look here's this old industry that crashed, just like d20!"

So I posted a thread about an old industry that crashed and said it was just like d20.

If I'm being sarcastic and condescending, why isn't he?

And if he is, why is it ok for him and not me

Chuck