The Day After Tomorrow (Spoilers)

Trainz said:
Howdy ooooh...

I'm probably gonna go see it tomorrow ;), so I won't probably come back to this thread until I did. So I'm basically just starting the conversation to join it later.

That said... anyone saw it ? I know I thought Independence Day (made from the same producer) was a huge pile of garbage, and it felt like it was totally funded by the american government.

I know that TDAT also mostly happens in the US, but I was hoping that it was a tad less patriotic and doesn't just glances over the fact that, yeah, the rest of the world is also going down.

I'm not looking for a big plot filled story: disaster flicks are just mindless entertainment, and that's just fine by me.

So, if you've seen it, what did you think ?

So we're all like superscrewed huh? First there's that nuclear war in The Day After then this massive ice age The Day After Tomorrow and there was that alien invasion back on Independence Day and I don't think I need to remind us all of The Day The Earth Stood Still, which wasn't near as bad as The Day Time Ended. I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, which just makes me afraid of what'll happen next week.

Seriously tho I've read an editorial that said that movie isn't going to have much of an effect. Besides, global warming probably won't fit on the election plate right now.
 

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Yeah, and what's up with all those James Bond movies? Every single James Bond movie boils down to some british guy saving the world. I swear, Bond movies totally must be funded by the British government.

You think that's bad? Check out those Lord of the Rings movies. If they aren't propaganda on the part of the Gondorian government, then I don't know WHAT is! They should be ashamed, with the way they portrayed the honest folk of Mordor. :]
 

Green Knight said:
You think that's bad? Check out those Lord of the Rings movies. If they aren't propaganda on the part of the Gondorian government, then I don't know WHAT is! They should be ashamed, with the way they portrayed the honest folk of Mordor. :]


No, they are proaganda by the elves. Look at all the cool things Legolas does, while Gilmli is comic relief and gets all his good scenes cut. ;)
 


Day after Tomorrow was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Another stinker by Emmerich and Devlin.

The cheese factor was off the scale. And at the end when the vice-president gives that ridiculous speech about "consuming all our natural resources" BS, half the theater started laughing and throwing popcorn at the screen.

It was that bad.

Its almost worth seeing as a comedy movie, so you can laugh at all sheer ridiculousness of it all. But then the movie would actually make money and we definitely don't want that.
 

Green Knight said:
And thus was born the Lupine Political Action Committee. Wolves as bad guys? Maybe because they're A) Predatory animals, and so one of their primary instincts is to hunt and kill prey, and B) Animals, and as such, have no capacity for distinguishing moral actions. How many stories of wolves saving babies from ditches have you heard? At best, whenever a wolf is around it's just passing through. At worst, it's looking for a snack. What're you hoping, for? Heroic wolves? :confused:

There are other preditory animals. Hell, they had a BEAR in the zoo that could've gotten out a lot eaiser than a "pack" of wolves. Not too mention that the bear would've been more likely to attack humans than the wolves...
I guess it's the characterization of them -- it's very thick in this case. I'm tired of them being used not as animals in movies but as EVIL animals. And with CG they actually made the wolves have facial expressions that "proved" they were evil. You just know that when you see the wolves in the zoo that they're going to be bad... it's a terrible cliche.

(sorry for the rant...)
 

Dark Jezter said:
Yeah, and what's up with all those James Bond movies? Every single James Bond movie boils down to some british guy saving the world. I swear, Bond movies totally must be funded by the British government.

(Where for art thou, rolleyes smilie?)
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I was criticizing one producer's movie, not america as a whole. There's quite a few american made movies I thought were brilliant.

And for the record, James Bond movies don't portray England as "we're number one". In the last Bond movie, MI6 and England don't look too good actually. In more than one Bond movie, England was collaborating with other countries. The spy who loved me for one.

Bond movies are all about one man being the best. Not because he's english, because he's Bond. ID4 had all the subtlety of a 2x4 in the back of the head. It was all about "Look at what america can accomplish when the going gets tough !". I'm tired of these kind of movies. It has nothing to do with the american people, and everything to do with some movie producers going for a quick and cheap buck.
 
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Trainz said:
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I was criticizing one producer's movie, not america as a whole. There's quite a few american made movies I thought were brilliant.

And for the record, James Bond movies don't portray England as "we're number one". In the last Bond movie, MI6 and England don't look too good actually. In more than one Bond movie, England was collaborating with other countries. The spy who loved me for one.

Bond movies are all about one man being the best. Not because he's english, because he's Bond. ID4 had all the subtlety of a 2x4 in the back of the head. It was all about "Look at what america can accomplish when the going gets tough !". I'm tired of these kind of movies. It has nothing to do with the american people, and everything to do with some movie producers going for a quick and cheap buck.

Again, it might not be apparent North of the border, but, especially in the last decade or so, there are vastly more movies that portray the US government, and to a lesser extent, the US military, in a negative light than a positive light. Even most war movies where ou are supposed to root for the Americans try to take the nation down a peg so as not to look too jingoistic. If anything, the pendulum has swung way too far in the anti-US direction. Hollywood is NOT a US government propoganda machine.
 
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DM_Matt said:
Again, it might not be apparent North of the border, but, especially in the last decade or so, there are vastly more movies that portray the US government, and to a lesser extent, the US military, in a negative light than a positive light. Even most war movies where ou are supposed to root for the Americans try to take the nation down a peg so as not to look too jingoistic. If anything, the pendulum has swung way too far in the anti-US direction. Hollywood is NOT a US government propoganda machine.
I have also noticed that. For one, the NRA must hate Runaway Jury.

I know that Hollywood is NOT a US government propoganda machine. When they gave that Oscar to Michael Moore, they made that quite clear.

That said, I have never implied that it was. I made it quite clear that this was my opinion about ONE producer and a FEW of his kin. Why must you guys be so defensive ?

You know, living north of a border doesn't deprive one's ability to use one's judgment. Maybe you have met quite a few canucks that were american bashers ? This is not one. This canuck is quite glad about many things that come out of the US, and is also quite glad to know and interact with quite a few US'ers.
 
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Trainz said:
I have also noticed that. For one, the NRA must hate Runaway Jury.
You know, living north of a border doesn't deprive one's ability to use one's judgment. Maybe you have met quite a few canucks that were american bashers ? This is not one. This canuck is quite glad about many things that come out of the US, and is also quite glad to know and interact with quite a few US'ers.

Thats not what I mean. I mean that you might not have been exposed to as large/representative a sample of US movies, let alone American political discussion about said movies. Sorry if it sounded rude.
 

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