Plane Sailing
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robberbaron said:
Yes, *that* would have made much more sense!
The DM turned me into a cleric!
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Yes, *that* would have made much more sense!
The Midnight campaign setting has a list of "Heroic Path's" because healing magic is practically nonexistant in that campaign setting.
One path is a healer's path.
Maybe you can convince your DM to take a look at it.
Remove the cleric level and give you the Healer's Path, or maybe some approximate value of it. Sure, it will make you more powerful then the other characters, but I don't think unbalancingly so, especially since it seems that the DM wants you to take that route instead of going the cohort route.
One path is a healer's path.
Maybe you can convince your DM to take a look at it.
Remove the cleric level and give you the Healer's Path, or maybe some approximate value of it. Sure, it will make you more powerful then the other characters, but I don't think unbalancingly so, especially since it seems that the DM wants you to take that route instead of going the cohort route.
Instead of the prestige class you proposed try the Mighty Defender of Kord from one of the Dragon Magazine articles. It needs some 3.5 conversion but it should work real well for you. Prereqs include; Strength domain, 8 ranks in Knowedge religion (will take a while to get to though) and capable of casting 2nd level divine spells (3rd level cleric). But the trade off is d10 hit points, +1 to caster level (every other level), increased effectivness of feat of strength, strength ability increases. It's what my fighter/cleric is taking.
Ozmar
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Not for Kord: he's CG.Plane Sailing said:
Here's what I would do (YMMV). I'd accept the gift of a cleric level and continue advancing fighter levels. I'd purchase wands of cure light wounds and maybe even a staff of healing, and use those items as the group's primary healing source. This method is great b/c you can ask everyone in the party to contibute to the purchase of said items from party funds. After all, they're for everyone's benefit.
Best thing about wands and staves - they don't provoke AoO when used!
Ozmar the Fighting Healer
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It may be that your DM has a special hook involving that cleric level you just gained. As a player, ask the DM if he has special plans to make that cleric level more purposeful, or if it is, "just up to you."
As a DM, I would see it as an opportunity to grant the use of a unique magic item, perhaps even an artifact. The fact that you have visited with Kord's avatar as part of your "new life" might include the granting of a unique ability more appropriate for your level (e.g., automatically highten all spells cast to 5th-level caster, or invoking the name of Kord during battle grants you rage abilities).
If I were the DM, here are some thoughts on what I might do:
1. You gain the outsider type to represent your second life, and a susceptability to certain magic that can sever that life more easily. You won't be coming back in a third life should you lose this one.
2. Your (unique and divinely gifted) holy symbol allows you (and other outsiders of Kord), to heighten spells at +4 caster levels with no casting cost. In addition, it grants +4 caster levels when used to turn undead, and allows Divine Might 1x/day.
3. When invoking the name of Kord, you can spontaneously call forth one 3rd or lower level cleric spell once per day. This spell does not count against your prepared spells per day. This can be used in place of the Divine Might ability. This is a supernatural ability which requires this specific holy symbol, which was created by an avatar of Kord.
There's room to make this a more interesting change than just granting a single cleric level, but it really is up to the DM to make it more meaningful mechanics-wise.
Being one level behind the rest of the party isn't such a bad penalty for being reborn IMO, regardless of being stuck with one level of another class or not. But, I think even your DM would want you to get more mileage out of your cleric level.
If your DM meant to penalize you for your death, than I would probably skip the divine might/spontaneous casting ability, or maybe more, but my impression is that you earned something, and as a result of communing with Kord, found that you would prove useful to him if granted a second life. I think the gifted abilities above would help to compensate for the low cleric level enough to make it useful, while not overshadowing the other characters. Together with my suggestions, I think it makes it worthwhile to pursue more cleric levels, which is how I would want to present it if it were my campaign, and I think Kord would want it that way too.
As a DM, I would see it as an opportunity to grant the use of a unique magic item, perhaps even an artifact. The fact that you have visited with Kord's avatar as part of your "new life" might include the granting of a unique ability more appropriate for your level (e.g., automatically highten all spells cast to 5th-level caster, or invoking the name of Kord during battle grants you rage abilities).
If I were the DM, here are some thoughts on what I might do:
1. You gain the outsider type to represent your second life, and a susceptability to certain magic that can sever that life more easily. You won't be coming back in a third life should you lose this one.
2. Your (unique and divinely gifted) holy symbol allows you (and other outsiders of Kord), to heighten spells at +4 caster levels with no casting cost. In addition, it grants +4 caster levels when used to turn undead, and allows Divine Might 1x/day.
3. When invoking the name of Kord, you can spontaneously call forth one 3rd or lower level cleric spell once per day. This spell does not count against your prepared spells per day. This can be used in place of the Divine Might ability. This is a supernatural ability which requires this specific holy symbol, which was created by an avatar of Kord.
There's room to make this a more interesting change than just granting a single cleric level, but it really is up to the DM to make it more meaningful mechanics-wise.
Being one level behind the rest of the party isn't such a bad penalty for being reborn IMO, regardless of being stuck with one level of another class or not. But, I think even your DM would want you to get more mileage out of your cleric level.
If your DM meant to penalize you for your death, than I would probably skip the divine might/spontaneous casting ability, or maybe more, but my impression is that you earned something, and as a result of communing with Kord, found that you would prove useful to him if granted a second life. I think the gifted abilities above would help to compensate for the low cleric level enough to make it useful, while not overshadowing the other characters. Together with my suggestions, I think it makes it worthwhile to pursue more cleric levels, which is how I would want to present it if it were my campaign, and I think Kord would want it that way too.
DWARF
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Well, the way my DM positeed the situation is this "you awake, you now have a Wisdom of 18 and have gained a level of cleric. You are now a cleric of Kord." So he wants me to continue taking levels in Cleric.
As for my leadership and NPC's, the group is big right now, and he wants it to take some time before leadership kicks in as I'll need time to gather people and use my influence. Of course, the game is pretty railroaded most of the time and we never get much in the way of downtime. We leave one city because we are being attacked by an assassin, only to arrive at another across a land in the midst of an orc invasion, only to have the city attacked by a mass of orcs the next day.
Basically, I think I'm going to talk with him about what he expects of me as a cleric in the party, and how leadership will work when we never get a chance to settle down. I missed the latest session since it's finals for university, but apparently we met a talking Griffon. Now THERE would be an interesting combination, have a Griffon as my cohort.... hmmmm.....
As for my leadership and NPC's, the group is big right now, and he wants it to take some time before leadership kicks in as I'll need time to gather people and use my influence. Of course, the game is pretty railroaded most of the time and we never get much in the way of downtime. We leave one city because we are being attacked by an assassin, only to arrive at another across a land in the midst of an orc invasion, only to have the city attacked by a mass of orcs the next day.
Basically, I think I'm going to talk with him about what he expects of me as a cleric in the party, and how leadership will work when we never get a chance to settle down. I missed the latest session since it's finals for university, but apparently we met a talking Griffon. Now THERE would be an interesting combination, have a Griffon as my cohort.... hmmmm.....
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