The Four Lands - The Colony
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J. Alexander
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shopping
Nightbreeze
Yes your right I asked for it..so here you go
[sblock]The recruiting of such a large groupd of people unnoticed even in such a commercial/industiral port as Brightlaw would be hard to miss. Quickly you can find perhaps 100 people both singel individuals and familes. As your going to make a series of port calls before actually setting off in order to gather the other contigents.....you could also recurit on a much smaller basis in those areas....
Perhaps the quickest and easiets option is also the most emotionally charged and politically charged one...Slavery is legal in the Confederate States and under the terms of the Charter it will be legal in the Colony for a set number of years. You could simply buy as many people as you wanted without attracting to much notice..you would also have access to a large pool of trained people in various backgrounds..from common field hands to experts.....it will aslo be the most costly way of doint it as slaves do not come cheap.
In regards to shipping you do find a host of small vessels that you can purchase but none of the really big sea going ships are avaialbe for purchase as they are owned by big companies..shippig lines.....you do find a fleet captain who is willing to accept a six month charter for his 5 ships....each ship is the size of an East Indidaman and easily carries 1000 tons of cargo......the cost is 200k silver pennies..but these ships would be able to carry enought supplies for the entire colony for eaisly with room to spare......thus allowing you more carog options for raw materials....
Answers
1. Yes
2. No
3. confused on this one
4. Yes
5. you get a both yes and no...to open ended as to what could or could not be harmful...but yes secret plans exist...but who knows if they will be harmful at this point
6. No
7. Yes / No
8. Yes /no
9. Yes / No
10. No
11. yes
Sorry what was the question to Sunbridge?[/sblock]
Nightbreeze
Yes your right I asked for it..so here you go
[sblock]The recruiting of such a large groupd of people unnoticed even in such a commercial/industiral port as Brightlaw would be hard to miss. Quickly you can find perhaps 100 people both singel individuals and familes. As your going to make a series of port calls before actually setting off in order to gather the other contigents.....you could also recurit on a much smaller basis in those areas....
Perhaps the quickest and easiets option is also the most emotionally charged and politically charged one...Slavery is legal in the Confederate States and under the terms of the Charter it will be legal in the Colony for a set number of years. You could simply buy as many people as you wanted without attracting to much notice..you would also have access to a large pool of trained people in various backgrounds..from common field hands to experts.....it will aslo be the most costly way of doint it as slaves do not come cheap.
In regards to shipping you do find a host of small vessels that you can purchase but none of the really big sea going ships are avaialbe for purchase as they are owned by big companies..shippig lines.....you do find a fleet captain who is willing to accept a six month charter for his 5 ships....each ship is the size of an East Indidaman and easily carries 1000 tons of cargo......the cost is 200k silver pennies..but these ships would be able to carry enought supplies for the entire colony for eaisly with room to spare......thus allowing you more carog options for raw materials....
Answers
1. Yes
2. No
3. confused on this one
4. Yes
5. you get a both yes and no...to open ended as to what could or could not be harmful...but yes secret plans exist...but who knows if they will be harmful at this point
6. No
7. Yes / No
8. Yes /no
9. Yes / No
10. No
11. yes
Sorry what was the question to Sunbridge?[/sblock]
J. Alexander
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DM Bitching a Little
Guys
I know the cargo shopping etc is tedious and unexciting..but i was hoping for a little more input from you other than saying i want to this and that.....Give me amounts.. and details..how much lumber..how many bricks..how much ore...how many goats......how much food...etc...remember you are starting the colony so it is your decision that are going to either make it a success or bust...now i realize time does not allow everyone the chance to go into detail etc..but if your going to hire 10 people then you need to also say I will purcase x amount of rations for them......as once we get there...your going to have to have all that little information on your sheet and posted to the wiki....how many days food for your people..how many nails...how many hammers...how many kegs of ale.....how many nets, etc.....
as a rule of thumb one pound of flour will make one loaf of bread and feed one person per day......you can also calculate a pound of meat for one day also.........
Anway I am going to delay the meeting till monday night so as to give everyone a chance to say exactly what they want to purchase and how much they want to.
Guys
I know the cargo shopping etc is tedious and unexciting..but i was hoping for a little more input from you other than saying i want to this and that.....Give me amounts.. and details..how much lumber..how many bricks..how much ore...how many goats......how much food...etc...remember you are starting the colony so it is your decision that are going to either make it a success or bust...now i realize time does not allow everyone the chance to go into detail etc..but if your going to hire 10 people then you need to also say I will purcase x amount of rations for them......as once we get there...your going to have to have all that little information on your sheet and posted to the wiki....how many days food for your people..how many nails...how many hammers...how many kegs of ale.....how many nets, etc.....
as a rule of thumb one pound of flour will make one loaf of bread and feed one person per day......you can also calculate a pound of meat for one day also.........
Anway I am going to delay the meeting till monday night so as to give everyone a chance to say exactly what they want to purchase and how much they want to.
Dracomeander
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Sorry, JA. I just have no time at all to do the research necessary to come up with the details you are looking for. Summer, weekends especially, are my busiest time of year for me. I barely have time to check the threads.
If you need to drop Conrad, so be it.
If you need to drop Conrad, so be it.
J. Alexander
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Conrad
OCC: Not a problem....just a reminder of what you guys are looking at......foodstuff are actually the easiest....and striaght forward....you want 10 tons of food etc........just do what you can and we will get going on tuesday
OCC: Not a problem....just a reminder of what you guys are looking at......foodstuff are actually the easiest....and striaght forward....you want 10 tons of food etc........just do what you can and we will get going on tuesday
Nightbreeze
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[sblock=ooc]: I am going to access the credit line then, and i will write a long and detailed post this evening. (will buy the slaves and free them once on destination, however with the debt that they will repay by working for the company.). I will need the price of slaves, however, in order to make something detailed. How much space do people take? Meaning, if one of those ships has no cargo, how much people would I be able to stuff in there?[/sblock]
J. Alexander
First Post
Shopping
Nightbreeze
[sblock]You asked for it.. a good field hand/general laborer will run you about 1000silver..........any genrall skilled trade such as cook, cooper, carpenter etc about 2000 silver....scribes or professions that need education about 3000 silver...on the reverside young men say bewteen 14 and 18 will run you around 600 silver....breeding age women about 1000 etc....if you get stuck just add find out what their montly wage is and times that by 10 years and you have the price....I will cut you a break for a bulk purchase just give me the overall cost...
Each of the ships can carry about 100 people in addition to their cargo space...if you outfitted one ship to be used for all the people you could easily fit up to 1100 people on board with their basic luggage and about 6 months of food in ration form.[/sblock]
Nightbreeze
[sblock]You asked for it.. a good field hand/general laborer will run you about 1000silver..........any genrall skilled trade such as cook, cooper, carpenter etc about 2000 silver....scribes or professions that need education about 3000 silver...on the reverside young men say bewteen 14 and 18 will run you around 600 silver....breeding age women about 1000 etc....if you get stuck just add find out what their montly wage is and times that by 10 years and you have the price....I will cut you a break for a bulk purchase just give me the overall cost...
Each of the ships can carry about 100 people in addition to their cargo space...if you outfitted one ship to be used for all the people you could easily fit up to 1100 people on board with their basic luggage and about 6 months of food in ration form.[/sblock]
Neurotic
I plan on living forever. Or die trying.
RAndal Lucius Stormweaver
Randal would like to buy/rent one cargo ship and one warship (it can be done as part of Nightbreezes company.
His cargo would be scrolls, books, full library and men to use and keep it well.(scribes of Deneir as priests, normal scribes, spellthieves for protection, normal rogues for security measures, bards for keeping the knowledge alive and schooling others; guards (fighters) for defending all that...
Additional cargo would be exotic spell components and rare alchemical components (if someone can provide the list, hint, hint
) spread out in shopping over three days and about hundred different people (or as much as Seraphina and Randal can round up) goind so far that he will pay someone 10% of the value of bought goods, covering bard spells and priest spells. Everybody else, please apply in time....
How much of those can be Randals followers?
Anyone using fire in any form will be punished. Casters that can extinguish fires will be hired immediatelly.
He has very little need for low level laborers and starting colony except in form of writing laws and schooling everybody...
He starts detailed journal starting with names of the council and acceptance of nobility titles by all present and continuing with the attack and as much of shopping he can discern from others...but this will written on the ship, too busy right now...
Question about golems was for whole of the party...CAN WE MAKE GOLEMS AS GUARDIANS?
Sendings for people I listed is as follow:
Randal Stormweaver. Long time commitment on foreign venture. Riches abound. Families welcome. Start at Brightlaw in three days, Port1, Port2, Port3, Port4. Respond 25 words.
Replace ports with list of names where we will dock.
Randal would like to buy/rent one cargo ship and one warship (it can be done as part of Nightbreezes company.
His cargo would be scrolls, books, full library and men to use and keep it well.(scribes of Deneir as priests, normal scribes, spellthieves for protection, normal rogues for security measures, bards for keeping the knowledge alive and schooling others; guards (fighters) for defending all that...
Additional cargo would be exotic spell components and rare alchemical components (if someone can provide the list, hint, hint
) spread out in shopping over three days and about hundred different people (or as much as Seraphina and Randal can round up) goind so far that he will pay someone 10% of the value of bought goods, covering bard spells and priest spells. Everybody else, please apply in time....How much of those can be Randals followers?
Anyone using fire in any form will be punished. Casters that can extinguish fires will be hired immediatelly.
He has very little need for low level laborers and starting colony except in form of writing laws and schooling everybody...
He starts detailed journal starting with names of the council and acceptance of nobility titles by all present and continuing with the attack and as much of shopping he can discern from others...but this will written on the ship, too busy right now...
Question about golems was for whole of the party...CAN WE MAKE GOLEMS AS GUARDIANS?
Sendings for people I listed is as follow:
Randal Stormweaver. Long time commitment on foreign venture. Riches abound. Families welcome. Start at Brightlaw in three days, Port1, Port2, Port3, Port4. Respond 25 words.
Replace ports with list of names where we will dock.
Nightbreeze
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[sblock=Ja] Hmm...tough stuff. I have to admit that the cost of a 6 month charter of 5 cargos surprised me: with 200.000sp I would be able to permamently buy 4 warships. However, if it appears to me that the captain is independent and over the course of 6 month I could sway him to become part of the company, especially if huge deposits of gold are found and after the show of my magic, I will pay up the money.
So, first thing first, I set up the Nascent Company for Development, with 960 ordinary shares of 1000sp each, all of them in my possession. For the release of new shares or in order to buy some of these shares, the people to be contacted are Ederin Scatterlight or Arianna Redsummer.
I buy a warship, one minor cargo capable of traversing the ocean for 30.000 (any ship will go, as long as it can arrive to the other shore), and buy the charter for the 5-ship fleet. We are up to 275.000 sp this way.
Then, I buy 150 general workers, 100 woman in breeding age, 100 young man/woman around 16 years old, as well as 2carpenters+1skilled(I am pricing him at 4000sp, so the total for the 2+1 is 10000), 2+1 blacksmiths, a herder, a woodcutter, 3 miners and a scribe. This adds up to a 347.000sp. I am also going to recruit the 100 workers that I can manage to recruit, and will give them only food for the voyage. They can bring their families, too.
Then I am buying the material required for the construction of 4 medium sized mines for a total of 120.000sp, supplies for 350 people for one year (if they are all poor meals, plus fresh water for the voyage, I would dare say 200.000sp...correct me if wrong). That leaves me on 942.000sp spent, and a dire need for other investors. I hope that with 450 people working from me plus the soldiers, it would form a huge portion of the colony's population.
The sending for the Duke of Sunbridge was "Scatterlight here. Colony in D'shai land, have wonderful idea for closed-shares company. Interested to speak? Arianna will rappresent me in the Four Lands".
The yes/no answers to questions 7,8,9? Is it meant as "unsure". How could it be? Anyway, I also cast a divination, asking "Who is the responsible for today's ambushes?"
As for Arianna: she is my cohort. Bright lady, 29-years old beauty, extremely ambitious. She has a past as a thief. Still undecided on how to build her, but she is sure to have great social modifiers. [/sblock]
Hennet, I will join you at the docks to manage the nets. Randal, if you provide me with the money required for those ships, I will buy them for you. Actually, I will buy them for the company, but will give you special shares that give you total control on those assets. Everyone: for whoever is willing to invest in the Nascent Company for Development, I will gladly welcome you. The company will be strictly linked to the colony, and it is meant to become the biggest company operating in the new lands. As soon as we find the real opportunities down there, we will give it more proper organization and will welcome other selected investors. Your contribution needs not to be big, but as you are already investing, you could do it this way, so that the resources are better organized.
So, first thing first, I set up the Nascent Company for Development, with 960 ordinary shares of 1000sp each, all of them in my possession. For the release of new shares or in order to buy some of these shares, the people to be contacted are Ederin Scatterlight or Arianna Redsummer.
I buy a warship, one minor cargo capable of traversing the ocean for 30.000 (any ship will go, as long as it can arrive to the other shore), and buy the charter for the 5-ship fleet. We are up to 275.000 sp this way.
Then, I buy 150 general workers, 100 woman in breeding age, 100 young man/woman around 16 years old, as well as 2carpenters+1skilled(I am pricing him at 4000sp, so the total for the 2+1 is 10000), 2+1 blacksmiths, a herder, a woodcutter, 3 miners and a scribe. This adds up to a 347.000sp. I am also going to recruit the 100 workers that I can manage to recruit, and will give them only food for the voyage. They can bring their families, too.
Then I am buying the material required for the construction of 4 medium sized mines for a total of 120.000sp, supplies for 350 people for one year (if they are all poor meals, plus fresh water for the voyage, I would dare say 200.000sp...correct me if wrong). That leaves me on 942.000sp spent, and a dire need for other investors. I hope that with 450 people working from me plus the soldiers, it would form a huge portion of the colony's population.
The sending for the Duke of Sunbridge was "Scatterlight here. Colony in D'shai land, have wonderful idea for closed-shares company. Interested to speak? Arianna will rappresent me in the Four Lands".
The yes/no answers to questions 7,8,9? Is it meant as "unsure". How could it be? Anyway, I also cast a divination, asking "Who is the responsible for today's ambushes?"
As for Arianna: she is my cohort. Bright lady, 29-years old beauty, extremely ambitious. She has a past as a thief. Still undecided on how to build her, but she is sure to have great social modifiers. [/sblock]
Hennet, I will join you at the docks to manage the nets. Randal, if you provide me with the money required for those ships, I will buy them for you. Actually, I will buy them for the company, but will give you special shares that give you total control on those assets. Everyone: for whoever is willing to invest in the Nascent Company for Development, I will gladly welcome you. The company will be strictly linked to the colony, and it is meant to become the biggest company operating in the new lands. As soon as we find the real opportunities down there, we will give it more proper organization and will welcome other selected investors. Your contribution needs not to be big, but as you are already investing, you could do it this way, so that the resources are better organized.
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