D&D (2024) The Future of One D&D Setting Books

[darjr]

Well I dunno what is due in 2024, but if One D&D playtest works I think it almost guarantees a FR and a GH and a Mystara and an Eberron setting, it’s just a matter of time.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I know a lot of people have theorized a new Forgotten Realms book at 1D&D's start, but with all the changes made to race (and subrace) design, as well as with Feats, I think Eberron is going to desperately need an update moreso than Realms is.

Most of Eberron's races got an update in MotM, with only Warforged and Kalashtar and both of those work fine with One D&D. Artificer is likely going to become a Core class.

The only issue would be the Dragonmark subraces.

But FR on the other hand needs a new book far more. It has races like Wemics that haven't been touched yet, it has everything outside the Swordcoast barely explored at all, to the constant complaints of FR fans for years. FR never really got a proper book that even explored it's main continent properly.

And there are so many changes to races happen like Tiefling, this Ardling thing, Aevendrow, Lorendrow, and so on. It's also an opportunity to sell the book to new FR fans generated by Honor Among Thievey if it's a success.

Plus I expect that the Forgotten Realms will be the setting that gets a connection to the MtG multiverse thanks to Realmbreaker. If so they could use FR update some MtG races.

I think that's one of the purposes of the Phyrexian arc in MtG next year, isn't just to undo part of the mending and link various MtG planes together, I believe they plane to use Realmbreaker to also create a link to the Forgotten Realms beyond the blind eternities.

They've been building up to this for years now, D&D races in Strixhaven, a Ravnica FR Crossover campaign.

On a practical level building a bridge between FR and MtG via Realmbreaker makes it way, way easier to reprint D&D cards in MtG sets and vis versa.

So there are a ton of lore and mechanical reasons to return to FR, plus a lot of folks were unsatisfied and even unhappy with the SCAG.

Also I think the MtG sets in late 2023-2024 rotation all have D&D vibes to explore the new connection. Eldraine might get a Elminister Planeswalker and Ixalan maybe Elliwick Trumblestrum Planeswalker for example.

An FR Campaign Book could explore the effect on FR, like Phyrexians invasion.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Yeah, I feel 2024 is going to be the big release of 1D&D accompanied by a Greyhawk guide and maybe a combat scenario usable for the Mass Combat.

 

[aco175]

I can see the money being in updating the Sword Coast Forgotten Realms.

 

[Scribe]

Most of Eberron's races got an update in MotM, with only Warforged and Kalashtar and both of those work fine with One D&D. Artificer is likely going to become a Core class.

The only issue would be the Dragonmark subraces.

But FR on the other hand needs a new book far more. It has races like Wemics that haven't been touched yet, it has everything outside the Swordcoast barely explored at all, to the constant complaints of FR fans for years. FR never really got a proper book that even explored it's main continent properly.

And there are so many changes to races happen like Tiefling, this Ardling thing, Aevendrow, Lorendrow, and so on. It's also an opportunity to sell the book to new FR fans generated by Honor Among Thievey if it's a success.

Plus I expect that the Forgotten Realms will be the setting that gets a connection to the MtG multiverse thanks to Realmbreaker. If so they could use FR update some MtG races.

I think that's one of the purposes of the Phyrexian arc in MtG next year, isn't just to undo part of the mending and link various MtG planes together, I believe they plane to use Realmbreaker to also create a link to the Forgotten Realms beyond the blind eternities.

They've been building up to this for years now, D&D races in Strixhaven, a Ravnica FR Crossover campaign.

On a practical level building a bridge between FR and MtG via Realmbreaker makes it way, way easier to reprint D&D cards in MtG sets and vis versa.

So there are a ton of lore and mechanical reasons to return to FR, plus a lot of folks were unsatisfied and even unhappy with the SCAG.

Also I think the MtG sets in late 2023-2024 rotation all have D&D vibes to explore the new connection. Eldraine might get a Elminister Planeswalker and Ixalan maybe Elliwick Trumblestrum Planeswalker for example.

An FR Campaign Book could explore the effect on FR, like Phyrexians invasion.

Would the MTG players of today actually want this? I dont know a single person from either property that wants them combined.

The idea of Jace and Elminster hanging out is absolutely not what I would ever want to see, in my lifetime.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

"Athaspace" becoming "Doomspace" either means Dark Sun has missed its best chance (because they decided it was massive reworking or nothing), or an indicator that a One D&D Dark Sun may appear sometime after 2024 (because they changed their mind about the revisions, and want to save it for later; note they also reference Athas in the playtest packet). I suspect the former, but can't rule out the latter.

Doomspace was never going to be Athas, because WotC isn't reckless enough to turn Athas' sun into a black hole. Think of how some folks reacted to Van Richten's and then amp that up to 90%+ of Dark Sun fans being upset. They were never going to do something like that.

That map was almost certainly created by an artist who was told "it's kind of like Dark Sun" and put in temp text that got caught late in the process and fixed.

Doomspace doesn't tell us anything about the future of Dark Sun.

That said, WotC has a lot on its plate without having to worry about psionics right now and I cannot imagine they're going to put out something so atypical as Dark Sun in 2024. Start hoping for it again in 2025.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I know a lot of people have theorized a new Forgotten Realms book at 1D&D's start, but with all the changes made to race (and subrace) design, as well as with Feats, I think Eberron is going to desperately need an update moreso than Realms is.

That wouldn't be the motivation for a 2024 setting. They will want something big and splashy that fits together naturally with the new core books. Especially following the movie coming out, that's going to be the Forgotten Realms.

Look for an Eberron update in 2025 or later.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Would the MTG players of today actually want this? I dont know a single person from either property that wants them combined.

The idea of Jace and Elminster hanging out is absolutely not what I would ever want to see, in my lifetime.

All the MTG D&D books appear to have sold well, so someone's clearly buying them. (I got Strixhaven, myself, and would snap up an Eldraine book.)

 

[Scribe]

All the MTG D&D books appear to have sold well, so someone's clearly buying them. (I got Strixhaven, myself, and would snap up an Eldraine book.)

Sure, they sell well. I'm not saying "Lets play D&D but in Phyrexia or Dominaria" isnt going to sell well, but thats not the angle being pushed here.

The idea of Jace taking a stroll through Baldur's Gate, well I cannot express the feeling I have towards the idea.

Settings books? No problem.
Making MTG and D&D the same setting?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Would the MTG players of today actually want this? I dont know a single person from either property that wants them combined.

The idea of Jace and Elminster hanging out is absolutely not what I would ever want to see, in my lifetime.

Does WotC care as long as the money keeps flowing? WotC knows that there will be some complaining, a few folks leave, but it will ultimately be accepted with far, far less outrage then Universes Beyond mere existance. Heck I've seen fols who think they've already been merged.

The advantages for WotC are just too many to ignore when they know the players will ultimately accept it, like they accepted the far, far, far more unpopular idea of universes beyond, which WotC keeps doing because it makes a ton of money.