The Goliath: What do you think?

[Chaos Drake]

Picked up the Races of Stone supplement yest and was quite impressed with the Goliath. What do folks think of the race? Would you allow one into your campaign?

A summary of the Goliath is here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040711b&page=5

 

[the Jester]

Summary... where?

 

[Chaos Drake]

Oops. Added the link.

 

[JimAde]

I see two things that jump out at me:

1) That "Powerful Build" thing rocks. Basically all the advantages of being Large, but none of the disadvantages. Enlarge Person makes you effectively Huge. Wow.

2) No penalty to mental stats. If I were going to play one of these guys, he'd be a Wizard with an 18 Int Banished from his tribe for being a weakling (only a 12 Strength...of course he's still got a +5 Grapple check at first level) he traveled to the lowlands and got work cleaning the stables of a wizard.

"Hey, that doesn't look too hard. I bet I can do that 'magic' stuff better than the apprentice!"

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Might change the name. Too many Judeo-Christian connotations, for one thing. But I like the psychology of the race, and the mechanics strike me as decent.

 

[Krail Stromquism]

I Love Goat Ball!

Goatball?

Pure genius.

I dont think I'd mind them as much if they had given the artists control art to work from. There are 3 distinct versions of it by 3 different artist. BAXA's Goatball being the most disturbing, due mainly to the wrestling figures in the forground, the expression on the one facing the viewer is haunting, and Ill carry it with me till the day I die.

Mechanically very cool, visually should have made them more human and less monsterish, for those of us that run low to mid fantasy campaigns.

Goatball? vomitous. Piercings and embedding gems? a bit too goofy, interesting yes, but goofy.

 

[Patlin]

Too similar to the half giant, and slightly better IMO. I don't like the level adjusted mechanic. Also, by the way, not a valid target for enlarge person.

 

[JimAde]

Too similar to the half giant, and slightly better IMO. I don't like the level adjusted mechanic. Also, by the way, not a valid target for enlarge person.

My bad. I didn't note the Monstrous Humanoid reference. No Charm Person on them either then. That could be nice. I wonder if a DM would make my hypothetical 1st level Goliath Wizard take a "Charm Monstrous Humanoid" spell instead of Charm Person.

 

[Laman Stahros]

Did anyone see a height/weight/age table for the goliath race? I do like them, but, I hate having to make something like that up myself, when I expect the publisher to do it.

 

[Celtavian]

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Looks like the ultimate warrior race. I might allow one into my campaign, but certainly would make players check with me first.