The HIVE 90210-911: Volume 2: Extreme Ultimate Home Edition; Gone Wild w/ Nano-Bots!

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Grognard! n-1 fanboi! n-hater!

You're doing it wrong - it's you who is the fanboy! He is a grogn-1ard.
But I think I might be holding out for n+1 this time. If I could think of what n is, which I can't...

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

You'll be telling me next you've never heard of n + 1 edition, either!

I am more a fan of edition m, where m is the last and best edition that will ever be. (m >= 4)

(EDIT) Just for clarity
E m e IQ+ V i e IQ+: i <= m && Q(D&D(m)) >= Q(D&D(i)) && D&D (i) e D&D && D&D (m) e D&D && m >= 4 .

For even more clarity:
(E: Exist quantifier, V: For All quantifier, e : element of, && : and operator, D&D (x): maps an x to a version of D&D, IQ+: Set of the non-negative rational numbers; Q(x): Maps an x to a level of quality.)

 

[Blackrat]

I am more a fan of edition m, where m is the last and best edition that will ever be. (m >= 4)

Except that in two years from that they'll release m.5. I'll wait for that before getting these "m Core Books"

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

Except that in two years from that they'll release m.5. I'll wait for that before getting these "m Core Books"

n + 1.5 is the One True System![/dialgo]

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

n + 1.5 is the One True System![/dialgo]

I don't think that's how it works.

I think dialgo is the basis of an induction.

Induction Thesis: D&D is the one true system.
Induction Basis: OD&D is the one true system. (see diaglo)
Induction Step: If D&D(x) is the one true system, D&D(x+1) is the one true system.
The proof is left as an exercise to the reader.*
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*)I call this proof by omission, and it's a common proving technique in teaching. It might be a variant of Lies for Children.

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

I don't think that's how it works.

I think dialgo is the basis of an induction.

Induction Thesis: D&D is the one true system.
Induction Basis: OD&D is the one true system. (see diaglo)
Induction Step: If D&D(x) is the one true system, D&D(x+1) is the one true system.
The proof is left as an exercise to the reader.*
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*)I call this proof by omission, and it's a common proving technique in teaching. It might be a variant of Lies for Children.

I am reminded of a famous note left in a book once:

I have a perfectly marvellous way of proving this, but alas it is too large to fit in this reply box.

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

Night, Hive!

 

[The_Warlock]

Meh. I denounce all your editions. My preferred edition is mine, since I can honestly say I've never played or run any edition "By the Book," I've always made them mine.

Now to try and set up a playtest of Mine Newest Edition...

Dead PeeSees, Dead PeeSees, Dead PeeSees All A-Round... (Sung to Jingle Bells)

 

[Dog Moon]

Meh. I denounce all your editions. My preferred edition is mine, since I can honestly say I've never played or run any edition "By the Book," I've always made them mine.

I cannot say the same. I've always felt it's hard to make a system your own when you haven't even played it once!

The first session my group plays of any game in any edition is always by the book and only after we play do we find what we want to change. I remember people talking about stuff they wanted to change before the freaking books even came out... I'm like 'how do you know what's good or bad till you try it?'

 

[The_Warlock]

I cannot say the same. I've always felt it's hard to make a system your own when you haven't even played it once!

The first session my group plays of any game in any edition is always by the book and only after we play do we find what we want to change. I remember people talking about stuff they wanted to change before the freaking books even came out... I'm like 'how do you know what's good or bad till you try it?'

I don't think I've ever considered making changes before actually reading the system or parts thereof. That is, in fact, pretty goofy. That said, I've come to conclusions based on previews that I did or didn't like something.

Generally though, I get a good feel for what needs editing for the kind of games I like to run on the 1st or 2nd read through.