The HULK Is Evil Propaganda?!

[Villano]

Personally, I think crazy people should not be allowed computer access. Let's face it, more than a few times, most of us have stumbled upon some insane ramblings on one subject or another and shook our heads in disbelief.

Recently, I joined a comic book Yahoo Group. A day after I joined, someone posted a review of the new Hulk movie that had my jaw on the floor. It made the "X-Men are all gay" guy seem positively coherent. Judge for yourself.

Yeah, you can call me a conspiracy nut. But I see more than one film a week and read a few papers.

I edited out some paranoid, political rants here about the government controlling Hollywood and the media.

The basic story is about how an idealistic scientist who experimented with drugs in the 60's, passed bad DNA on to his kid, shot up him up with mind altering joyjuice, stabbed his wife, and left young BRUCE emotionally distant and permanently dysfunctional.

It's an urban myth stereotype retold in comic book fantasy and presented as typical. The 60's are once again portrayed as a time when idealism led to drugs and screwed up kids who became the parents of today. The emotionally distant is the fault of the preceding generation, blah , blah blah.

More political stuff.

In the battle scenes with the HULK, the military never gets killed. HULK thrashes the tanks with other tanks, throws the soldiers two or three miles to a crash landing, bangs up helicopters, and we hear, NOT SEE, the voices of the soldiers communicating "It's okay -- I'm still alive. I'm a little banged up, but I'm not hurt." It seems as though a BUSH COMMANDANT OF PROPAGANDA looked at a preview and ordered the voice overs before release.

Here he went on and on about how the Hulk should kill soldiers (or "stupid Gomers", as he calls them), and more about the secret government control of Hollywood.

And NICK NOLTE'S little rant against the religious right and the military sounded too sane to me to make me believe he was an arch villian.

Oh, yes, you read that right. He thought Nick Nolte's character was "too sane" to be the villain.

I also chopped out some more politcal stuff.

I applauded NICK NOLTE when he tried to make a case for his son to help him and actually wanted to BOO Bruce Banner for crying out NOOOOOOOOOOO as if he were
asking Luke Skywalker to come over to the dark side.

Do I even need to comment on this?

And, here he goes on some more about how the Hulk should kill soldiers and the government forcing the filmmakers to tell us, "DER MILITARY IZZ OUR FRIENDS", and the movie, "carries mind altering propaganda against common sense and intellectualism."

Finally, he ends it with this:

But DAMN, it bugs me when the aforementioned I've just ranted about looks too manipulated to believe it was the screenwriter's or filmmaker's generic intention.

Okay, when confronted by something like this, people with either ignore it, quit the group, or respond. I stupidly responded.

Now, don't get me wrong. I tried to be as polite as I could and, in a nutshell, said that I thought he stretched things beyond the breaking point to pove his point, to which he responded in a long, rambling speech about politics and the evil, government control of Hollywood and movies like the Hulk with comments like:

So give me the luxury to assume just a little that insignificant movies like THE HULK may have had a little tampering by ignorant minds or conservative watchdogs

And...

Hollywood see films like THE HULK as "movies for de kidzz" and they want to make sure the message of pure allegiance to
this country is steadfast and unwavering, even if it's at the expense of people with whom they disagree.

Okay, normally, I would let it lie there, except he misquoted me. Not just misquoting, but using what I really didn't say as the basis for his rant.

When I corrected him, it sparked a lonnggg paranoid rant that I won't reprint here since it is sure to offend, well, everyone, but it included gems such as the fact that the election that saw Ronald Reagan become President was rigged.

And he ends it with this:

Believe me, I respect your opinions and thank you for this time out. I bow to your good points, wag my fingers at where you're wrong, but thank you for the exhange.

Gee, thanks. I'm being patronized by a guy who thought the most rational and heroic person in the Hulk was Nick Nolte.

*Sigh* I don't know why I bothered posting this here. I guess I need some validation that I'm not the crazy one.

 

[EricNoah]

Looks like a good (if very extreme) example of why we don't permit politics or religion to mix with our gaming discussion here at EN World. Honestly, the last thing I would do would be to try to engage myself in conversation with someone who had so clearly already made up his mind. To me, stuff like the above just does not equal fun.

 

[Wormwood]

The worst part is...there's absolutely no way I could reply to this post without getting the thread locked.

Tease.

 

[Aaron2]

The 60's are once again portrayed as a time when idealism led to drugs and screwed up kids who became the parents of today.

Dang, if I knew that was what the movie was about, I would have gone to see it.


Aaron

 

[John Crichton]

Gee, thanks. I'm being patronized by a guy who thought the most rational and heroic person in the Hulk was Nick Nolte.

*Sigh* I don't know why I bothered posting this here. I guess I need some validation that I'm not the crazy one.

Well, you are crazy. But that's just in general.

That guy seems like a few people I used to hang out with - a few buttons short of a remote control. I'm glad the mods keep stuff like that out of here. I mean, come on, the Hulk was obviously about Marxism and oppression of the masses.

 

[Villano]

Re: Re: The HULK Is Evil Propaganda?!

Originally posted by John Crichton That guy seems like a few people I used to hang out with - a few buttons short of a remote control. I'm glad the mods keep stuff like that out of here. I mean, come on, the Hulk was obviously about Marxism and oppression of the masses. [/B]

I thought the Hulk represented the repressed sexuality of an entire generation.

 

[Mark Chance]

The 60's are once again portrayed as a time when idealism led to drugs and screwed up kids who became the parents of today.

Originally posted by Aaron2Dang, if I knew that was what the movie was about, I would have gone to see it.

I'm trying to figure out what is so controversial about said depiction of the 60s. Sounds pretty much dead on. Maybe he's upset because The Hulk also doesn't address domestic terrorism, riots, and the fact that the vast bulk of the anti-war movement vanished once the draft was done away with.

 

[John Crichton]

Re: Re: Re: The HULK Is Evil Propaganda?!

I thought the Hulk represented the repressed sexuality of an entire generation.

Oh, I thought that was implied.

 

[John Crichton]

I'm trying to figure out what is so controversial about said depiction of the 60s. Sounds pretty much dead on. Maybe he's upset because The Hulk also doesn't address domestic terrorism, riots, and the fact that the vast bulk of the anti-war movement vanished once the draft was done away with.

Ya know, bringing reason in here just won't do. We can't have that.

 

[Mark Chance]

Ya know, bringing reason in here just won't do. We can't have that.

I'm sorry. I'll go spank myself.

Actually, I was going to go spank myself anyway. Something to do with repressed sexuality.