The HULK Is Evil Propaganda?!

[Villano]

Dude, that's what Ignore lists and Blocked senders are for. It's not just for bulk mail anymore.

I have internet access via a large rock with a cocoanut tied to it (aka, a WebTV), so I'm not sure if they even do that.

I do know that my mom had a WebTV and she registered a complaint with them because she was getting undelivered e-mail messages for spam she alledgedly sent. Obviously, she didn't send out any spam, and since it's a WebTV, it can't be a virus since they can't catch them.

The closest anyone can figure is that it was a scam. She got spam, clicked the link to unsubsribe, but that link was actually set up to forward on spam through her e-mail. Basically, having her send out there spam for them.

It's like a spam chain letter.

Anyway, after letting them know about it twice, she got a 3rd returned spam, so she cancelled that addy and started a new one.

So, my point is, from their past performances, I'm not sure I'd trust WebTV to do anything.

Now, she has a computer, so she doesn't need to worry about it.

 

[Villano]

Ok so I haven't seen The Hulk yet but this is a Comic Book movie here why would you expect soldiers to die? You know maybe they just didn't want a NC-17 rating. As far as anything pro military, doesn't the Hulk basically punk out the miltary repeatedly? Like I said I didn't see the movie but based on the comics, the cartoons and the previews I have never seen all that much pro military there, of course then again why would our government waste money trying to influence a movie made about a 60's comic book by a Hong Kong director? Don't they have better things to do? Don't they have more effective things to do (like influence T3 as a propaganda film )? I haven't heard many kids comming out of the theater wanting to be a tank commander because of the movie or anything, so I am wondering just what the point of this propaganda was supposed to be, for kids to wish they could be exposed to gamma rays?

No, to eat that gamma-irratiated chicken. You see, the government is secretly controlled by the poultry industry. Who runs Kentucky Fried Chicken? Colonel Sanders, of course! Now the military connection becomes clear.

The best way to deal with this kind of thing is to ignore it, the worst thing to do is to actually try to discuss it rationally with the person. If you want to have fun with it you can send the guy links to the cubist movement and the space ark site or point out to him that the govenrment is monitoring his post and will probably be paying him a visit in the near future for blowing the whistle on their Hulk propaganda.

Yeah, and then he goes on a shooting spree. Good advice!

Anyway, the general concensus here seems to be to ignore him, so I will.

Having craziness directed at me kind of stress me out. I appreciate all the advice, guys.

 

[John Crichton]

Anyway, the general concensus here seems to be to ignore him, so I will.

Having craziness directed at me kind of stress me out. I appreciate all the advice, guys.

I tempted to say, "Forget the advice! Poke this guy a bit more and come back here to report on it. I'm really amused by this!" But no, that would be madness. Don't do that...

Seriously.

 

[Mistwell]

The Hulk was just more anti-gamma-ray propaganda used to convince kids that absorbing huge doses of gamma rays is bad for you. Yeah yeah...so how come the Fantastic Four turned out so cool, eh? Right...cause Gamma Rays never hurt anyone, they just give you super powers. Gamma Rays don't kill people, people do.

 

[Silver Moon]

I thought the Hulk represented the repressed sexuality of an entire generation.

No, that is not it either. The Hulk is a philosophical metaphor about mankind and the ideal political system that man finds himself in. The military-industrial society that Banner finds himself working in is a representation of the economic system proposed by philosopher Adam Smith in his 1776 work The Wealth of Nations. Banner himself represents the person who has read the works of Locke and Rousseau on the freedom and liberty of man, and his desire to escape from the economic situation that he finds himself in. The Hulk himself is representative of the works of Karl Marx, and the ability of that philosophy to escape from and dominate the capitalist society, despite it's relentless attempt to counter, as personified by the character of General Ross. The conflict that this creates, and the need to come to a balanced society that has both capitalist and socialist themes is represented by the Betty Ross character. The Nick Nolte character is representative of the Judeo-Christian philosophy and how it intereacts with other economic philosophies. I hope that makes everything clear. Please feel free to post all of the above back on that Yahoo messageboard.

Edited for date correction.

 

[Mark Chance]

The Nick Nolte character is representative of the Judeo-Christian philosophy and how it intereacts with other economic philosophies.

Actually, the Nolte character spouts Nietzche. All that is missing is the anti-Semitism.

Oh yeah: Adam Smith didn't write anything in 1976. Double

 

[Villano]

Re: Re: The HULK Is Evil Propaganda?!

Actually, the Nolte character spouts Nietzche. All that is missing is the anti-Semitism.

Tyr Anasazi is an anti-semite?! What would Kevin Sorbo say?

Oh, wait, you almost got me there! You're just being silly. Nick Nolte didn't have any spikes on his arm!

 

[Green Knight]

Ahhh... no.

 

[Wormwood]

Well, I'd better get this in before Eric's Grandmother shows up:

I was thinking the exact. same. thing.

Well said, GK!

 

[DM_Matt]

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I definately agree with that guy who pointed out how rediculous it is to conclude that the government is propogandizing to us via the entertainment industry.

It is indeed somewhat insulting to talk that way about the nation that has the freest media in the world, and it serves to obscure the problems with state-controlled media elsewhere. If even the US doesn't actually have press/speech freedom, how can people advocate press/speech freedom in places where it is seriously lacking.

The funny part is that many of these same people can't get enough of the state-run BBC or Al-Jazeera, which while privately-owned, is funded by the Quatari government, cooperates with censors throughout the incredably unfree Mideast, and serves mostly as a voice for governments and organizations througohut the region that actually admit to being propogandizers. Why do they like these less-free stations: because they like America less, and thus the far left gets to hear more of what they agree with.

Regarding Hollywood as a propogandizer, where on earth have these people been? Hollywood in general HATES the current government. When it is discovered that a celebrity actually LIKES Bush (Bruce Willis, Arnold Schwartenegger, Dennis Miller), its big news.

Every Wednesday night NBC airs West Wing, where a superidealized version of Clinton faces the same questions that Bush does, makes the opposite decision, and it works out ok. This past season of 24, and the movie LXG were very thinly-veiled rehashes of anti-war movement conspiracy theories. The Palestinian terrorists in the book "SUm of all Fears" were replaced with neo-nazis with an utterly rediculous plan to ensure that the movie did not synergize with Bush policy.

So finally a movie comes along that doesn't choose to attack the military or current government when it has something of an opportunity, and this guy goes off on it for failing to.

Besides, even if the movie WAS pro-government, that doesn't necessarily mean that the government caused that. That is as rediculous an unsubstantiated a claim as accusing Howard Dean of bribing the producers of 24 or Yasser Arafat of arranging the SOAF changes.