D&D 5E The Larger Failure of "Tyranny of Dragons"

[jasper]

Most, if not all, GMs here write adventures. Publishing them is hardly worth the effort. The profit margin on RPG IP is shocking.

profit profit. What type of alien are you? Bald. With pointed teeth.
(Puts on coach's outfit. Cues the halftime music)
PROFIT. IT IS FOR THE LOVE OF GAME.
NOW GET OUT THERE AND WIN WRITE ONE FOR THE GIPPER GARY!

 

[Sadras]

profit profit. What type of alien are you? Bald. With pointed teeth.

Ferengi is thy name.
Rules of Acquisition is thy game.

 

[Jd Smith1]

profit profit. What type of alien are you? Bald. With pointed teeth.
(Puts on coach's outfit. Cues the halftime music)
PROFIT. IT IS FOR THE LOVE OF GAME.
NOW GET OUT THERE AND WIN WRITE ONE FOR THE GIPPER GARY!

Wow.

And not in a good way.

 

[hawkeyefan]

I run a player-driven campaign, and my players are driven by the four pillars of spite, petty-mindedness, greed, and irrational affections for random NPCs.

I do reward role-play and investment in the game, but those are generally secondary considerations for my players.

So they do care about other things than merely surviving?

 

[Jd Smith1]

So they do care about other things than merely surviving?

As I said, they are motivated by the four pillars: spite, petty-mindedness, greed, and irrational affection for random NPCs.

Beyond that, it varies from campaign to campaign, and player to player. Last campaign, a western set in 1889, one player's chief motivation was dressing well, avoiding getting his clothes or shoes dirty, gambling, and annoying his father. Later in the campaign he got married and developed an interest in killing Chinese triads.

 

[Wiseblood]

As I said, they are motivated by the four pillars: spite, petty-mindedness, greed, and irrational affection for random NPCs.

So true.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Ferengi is thy name.
Rules of Acquisition is thy game.

Would a Star Trek reference have any meaning to someone who despises stories?

Darmok when the walls fell

 

[jayoungr]

I much prefer to string together separate modules, with some kind of Arc Plot going on in the background.

Many, many chapters in the so-called "adventure paths" can be played as stand-alone modules with just a modicum of editing.

 

[generic]

Would a Star Trek reference have any meaning to someone who despises stories?

Darmok when the walls fell

Um... So, I don't personally enjoy @Jd Smith1's preferred style of play, but what I certainly don't enjoy is the fact that you seem to be unwilling to let others play the game the way they want to play it.

I may want to tell deep and complex stories, often through the use of a sandbox environment, but if Jd Smith1 wants to play through OSR-style self-motivated 'completely open' sandboxes or something of that sort, then why can't you let him have his fun?

If Jd Smith's players felt belittled, and disliked his DMing style, they wouldn't show up. Evidently, they're having fun. Remember, there is no one way to play the game.

 

[hawkeyefan]

As I said, they are motivated by the four pillars: spite, petty-mindedness, greed, and irrational affection for random NPCs.

Beyond that, it varies from campaign to campaign, and player to player. Last campaign, a western set in 1889, one player's chief motivation was dressing well, avoiding getting his clothes or shoes dirty, gambling, and annoying his father. Later in the campaign he got married and developed an interest in killing Chinese triads.

Yes, as you said....but you also said there are no stakes beyond PC death so I’m just trying to reconcile these somewhat contradictory statements.