The MOUNT spell

[shilsen]

I doubt you can summon the mount over the head of an enemy, it seems far-fetched to me.

It's not just far-fetched, but the rules explicitly forbid it. The PHB specifically says under Conjuration that a conjured creature or object cannot "appear floating in an empty space. It must appear in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it" (pg. 157).

 

[Fenes 2]

It's not just far-fetched, but the rules explicitly forbid it. The PHB specifically says under Conjuration that a conjured creature or object cannot "appear floating in an empty space. It must appear in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it" (pg. 157).

Thanks... my faith in 3E rules is reaffirmed.

 

[demon_jr]

as someone stated earlier, i believe the mount acts a regular, trained mount, of its type.

on another note, i believe our DM does not approve of using mount to set off traps or as cannon fodder. while he does not disallow the use of it, repeated uses of mount for such a purpose could be interpreted as abuse of the spell.

i have discovered that while spells can sometimes be used beyond the intended scope of the spell, it is always good to speak to your DM before hand to determine if such a use is valid for your campaign.

 

[Mr Fidgit]

a conjured creature or object cannot "appear floating in an empty space. It must appear in an open location on a surface capable of supporting it" (pg. 157).

ok, i goofed on that one

demon_jr quote: "i believe our DM does not approve of using mount to set off traps or as cannon fodder"

i would like to add that i've never seen the mount spell used in this way, either. those examples were just supposed to be joke anyway

i guess to answer the questions "Does anybody ever use this spell? When does it come in handy?", i should've said, 'yes', and, 'when you need a riding horse'

 

[1337 h4xor]

yeah i know you cant summon it over air but like i said summon it then push it off the cliff.

 

[Hypersmurf]

No, no... you cast Wall of Force to make a surface capable of supporting your Mount (or Elder Earth Elemental, if you have Summon Monster IX). Then you summon the mount (or EEE) onto the Wall of Force, directly above your opponent. Then you dismiss the Wall.

-Hyp.

 

[bret]

Getting back to the question of does anyone ever use this spell, the answer is yes.

Recently in a high level game we lost all of our horses to a dragon. After we had taken care of the immediately problems, we had several days walk to get where we needed to be. Rather than walk, we used a *lot* of mount spells (thank you, Rary's Mnemonic Enhancer) to summon up enough horses for the group.

There have been other occations, that was the most use I've put the spell to though.

 

[Zhure]

The mount actually is a vastly better combatant than any of the Summon Monster 1 creatures (mostly due to hit points) and has a 2 hr/level duration.

Greg

 

[candidus_cogitens]

The mount actually is a vastly better combatant than any of the Summon Monster 1 creatures (mostly due to hit points) and has a 2 hr/level duration.

Greg

That would be true, Greg, if "willingly and well" means that it is trained for combat, as a warhorse. But, i think others have been leaning towards interpreting it as meaning simply trained as a riding horse.

In my wishful thinking, I had hoped that there was a middle ground between these interpretations, such as having some kind of unusual level of obedience, while not necessarily being able to attack. Maybe it obeys the rider's direction without the need for a ride check for "controlling a mount in combat." This may have been merely wishful thinking, justified only by the fact that "willingly and well" would seem to suggest something other than simply "trained for riding," since they could have simply said the latter.

 

[Dr_Rictus]

No, no... you cast Wall of Force to make a surface capable of supporting your Mount

Except that a wall of foce can only be a dome or a vertical wall. A mount falling off a 10' dome is going to land perfectly safely and hurt nobody unless they happen to catch a hoof, and I'd like to see the mount that can perch on top of a wall. To say nothing of the fact that you have almost no need to drop a horse on somebody if you already have them inside a dome-shaped wall of force.

Really, so many of these conversations could be avoided if people were to read the book.

Oh, wait. It was a joke. Ha ha.