The New Ultimate Spider-Man

[Agamon]

Marvel Comics reveal new Spider Man is black and could be gay in the future | Mail Online

M'kay...what, they didn't learn back in the 90's with the whole Spider-Clone thing that you don't mess with Peter Parker? And people think DCnU is a bad idea...

And before someone points out who un-PC this post seems, I'd have a problem with this if it was a new white kid with a girlfriend. Peter is Spider-Man, period. Anyone else is...not.

 

[Welverin]

And before someone points out who un-PC this post seems, I'd have a problem with this if it was a new white kid with a girlfriend. Peter is Spider-Man, period. Anyone else is...not.

Well, Peter is a little too busy being dead to be Spider-man anymore, so...

And no he won't be coming back. They don't do that in the Ultimate Universe.

 

[Agamon]

Yeah, I guess. My point, I guess is I'm not sure why he had to die in the first place. I pretty much saw all the "Death of Spider-Man" headlines as just another storyline (yeah, you get pretty jaded with overhyped comic bylines after a while).

Was USM selling so poorly that it needed such a drastic shake up? I thought it was the line in the Ultimate universe that would stay stable forever*.


*forever = until Bendis stops writing it, of course

 

[Welverin]

Was USM selling so poorly that it needed such a drastic shake up? I thought it was the line in the Ultimate universe that would stay stable forever*.

I don't think so, it's still a top thirty book, based on the list in Previews.

My guess it's just where the story led Bendis. If you remember Alias, it wasn't canceled, Benids wrote the last issue and realized that was the end of the series, so one told him to do it. I think the same thing happened with the Pulse.

So, again, I bet that's just the path he ended up on and went with it rather than force things a different way just to keep the money train rolling. Much easier to do in the Ultimate Universe than the main one.

 

[nedjer]

I wasn't sold on Civil War in the lead-up, but it was great. Wasn't at all sure where X-Men were going for a while until Messiah Complex rolled out - so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. If the plots and the art are Ultimate standard it's a buy for me.

 

[Dyir]

And no he won't be coming back. They don't do that in the Ultimate Universe.

They have, here and there. Beast's death was retconned, and they brought Gwen Stacy back too.

I'm ambivalent. I would have been more interested if they'd have made Peter Parker non-white, rather than killing him off so they can introduce a "new Spider-man." It unfortunately means that poor Miles will spend his entire run being compared to the "real Spider-man" rather than being judged on his own merits.

Also, I've felt that the Ultimate Universe doesn't seem to have a coherent voice any longer and it seems like Marvel doesn't quite know what they want the line to do for them, as a company. I'm not entirely sure that the line will even survive much longer, which would make this change irrelevant.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Meh.

They should have made him be a totally new costumed identity instead of making him become the "Black Possibly Gay Spiderman." Hell, he could have gone under the code name Anansi and he could have easily fit in with the other "Spiderman Family" members.

 

[MrMyth]

Well, Peter is a little too busy being dead to be Spider-man anymore, so...

And no he won't be coming back. They don't do that in the Ultimate Universe.

...you know, aside from the fact that his killer, the Green Goblin, very specifically was killed off... and then brought back. Along with at least one primary cast member of the series. And, you know, the previous 'death of Spider-man' that they almost went with following Ultimatum, and then backed away from.

Anyway, I like the new character, but would be very surprised if Peter wasn't back within a few years. Honestly, though, I'm less interested in the new guy, and more interested in seeing what happens with many of the other characters - Spider-girl, etc.

 

[MrMyth]

Also, I've felt that the Ultimate Universe doesn't seem to have a coherent voice any longer and it seems like Marvel doesn't quite know what they want the line to do for them, as a company. I'm not entirely sure that the line will even survive much longer, which would make this change irrelevant.

It's true, but... it also feels like it has moved past the low point (Ultimate Power, Ultimates 3, Ultimatum... the Loeb trifecta, basically). The other Ultimates books haven't been on par with their initial launch, but are certainly an improvement on that nonsense, and seem to be trying to move past it.

 

[Dyir]

It's true, but... it also feels like it has moved past the low point (Ultimate Power, Ultimates 3, Ultimatum... the Loeb trifecta, basically). The other Ultimates books haven't been on par with their initial launch, but are certainly an improvement on that nonsense, and seem to be trying to move past it.

I will agree with that. However, they've been moving away from "modern retelling of older Marvel stories" and towards new stories with new characters for some time too. The problem is that the more they change, the more the Ultimate Universe resembles DC's Tangent Universe: a completely unique universe that only shares similar names. And I'm not sure I'm really interested in such a universe, honestly.