The OGL 1.1 is not an Open License

[darjr]

Except that is only true for some, not even the majority of creators.

Looks like the badge is for everyone selling OGL 1.1 stuff.

 

[Art Waring]

Except that is only true for some, not even the majority of creators.

How does that have any relevance to what I said? I'm genuinely confused.

 

[Reynard]

I mean that just isn't true. You can WANT 3pps to make money, but fan work homebrew and things like this very board will fill that hole.

That's a naive view of the 3PP ecosystem. One of they keys to its success has been that it provides professional products for which there is significant demand -- adventures, class crunch, monster books, settings etc -- that WotC does not think are profitable enough to bother with. The key here is "professional" -- you know, with editors and layout artists and such.

 

[Greg Benage]

You cannot republish your DMsGuild material anywhere else and anyone can copy and modify it.

That doesn't appear to be true. From the site, "Wizards does not own any of the unique IP that you create in your publications." It strikes me that you could use the unique IP you've published on DMsGuild in a different publication. Does the agreement say somewhere that you can't?

That's untenable for a lot of creators.

Perhaps, and yet DMsGuild seems to be motoring along without them.

 

[mamba]

and as I said I'm not sure if that IS a bad thing. having none or less 3pp will change things I am unsure if it will for better or worse.

misunderstood you then (or rather you said so in a different post).

I can tell you that the widespread 3P support is definitely one of the reasons I went with 5e, also if there were none I would not have spent one $ more on WotC products, I simply would own less 5e products

 

[Reynard]

That doesn't appear to be true. From the site, "Wizards does not own any of the unique IP that you create in your publications." It strikes me that you could use the unique IP you've published on DMsGuild in a different publication. Does the agreement say somewhere that you can't?

Perhaps, and yet DMsGuild seems to be motoring along without them.

You can't publish the work as a whole anywhere else. https://support.dmsguild.com/hc/en-us/articles/217520927-Ownership-and-License-OGL-Questions

 

[GMforPowergamers]

That's a naive view of the 3PP ecosystem.

not really, it's more that there are pros and cons both for and against 3PP

One of they keys to its success has been that it provides professional products for which there is significant demand

and if there wasn't a professional product there you don't think that homebrew and shared non professional content would be there...

 

[GMforPowergamers]

misunderstood you then (or rather you said so in a different post).

I persnally have gone back and forth on weather 3pp was or is a good thing... and I could list out pros and cons.

I can tell you that the widespread 3P support is definitely one of the reasons I went with 5e, also if there were none I would mot have spent one $ more on WotC products, I simply would own less 5e products

I am sure you are far from alone. My question is, is it enough to make a dent?

 

[Reynard]

not really, it's more that there are pros and cons both for and against 3PP

What exactly would be a negative of 3PP support for 1D&D?

and if there wasn't a professional product there you don't think that homebrew and shared non professional content would be there...

Are you suggesting that some random shared Gdoc originating from reddit would have the same quality, penetration and acceptance as, say, a Kobold Press book?

I know netbooks are/were a thing, and you do occasionally find really high quality fan work (Star Wars 5E as an example) but I am completely unconvinced returning to the usenet days of unofficial support would be a good think for D&D.

 

[Greg Benage]

You can't publish the work as a whole anywhere else.

Well, of course not. That doesn't mean you can't republish the unique IP in it somewhere else, though.