The Oscar Buzz Thread! (Oscar Nominees Announced!)


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KenM said:
No, Jodie Foster is still the youngest to get a nomination for Bad News Bears. She was like 11 or 12.
An impressive feat for Foster, since she wasn't even in the film. You're thinking, perhaps, of her nomination for Taxi Driver, when she was 14 (born in 1962, film in 1976) when it was made, and 15 at the Oscars themselves.

Tatum O'Neal did get the youngest for her work on Paper Moon, with her father, Ryan O'Neal. That was when she was 10 years old...but that was for Supporting Actress, not Actress in a Leading Role. She also won two golden globes for that same performance. She was not nominated for Bad News Bears, which was also in 1976, when she would have been...13.
 

Kai Lord said:
Because digital naval ship extensions and water compositing was pioneered in 1997 and polished nicely in 2000.

No one had ever pulled off a live action mecha battle or a Dragonball Z fight convincingly before Matrix: Revolutions, and M:R did both in the same film.


Which is contradicted by the Oscar recognition WETA's Gollum and MASSIVE digital battles have received and will receive.
What film in 1997 pioneered naval ship battles using bigatures and CGI compositing? Titanic and The Perfect Storm used some of the effects, but different ones were called for in M&C. It was more than just, "look, we're on the water!"

Personally, I thought the final showdown between Smith and Neo to be pretty weak. At that point, you're just watching a rendered cinematic from a video-game. It didn't really work that well for me, particularly as a Dragonball Z fight, as they didn't really seem to do much more than brutal punches and kicks with little of the previous finese for which the series had distinguished itself.

And more importantly, as I said before, many of the effects in M2/M3 were very obviously effects, however skillful they were. At several points, I was pulled out of my suspension of disbelief, because I was aware that Neo had become a CGI character....and that defeats what the effects were supposed to be doing.

Gollum is the exact opposite. The motion capture technique and the combination of Andy Serkis' acting combined with weta's digital magic made you forget or ignore that Gollum wasn't real. I don't recall MASSIVE winning any awards, but if it did (and it should) it was due to, again, not looking like a special effect. When they show you the seen in TTT where there are NO live orcs as they approach Helm's Deep, and I had assumed they were ALL real...well, that's amazing. Shiny CGI Neo...wasn't.
 

KenM said:
No, Jodie Foster is still the youngest to get a nomination for Bad News Bears. She was like 11 or 12.
The youngest person ever nomiated was Justin Henry, 8, as best supporting actor for "Kramer vs. Kramer" in 1979.

The youngest person to win was Tatum O'Neal, 10, as best supporting actress for "Paper Moon."

Keisha Castle-Hughes, 13, is the youngest person ever nominated in a lead acting category.
 

WizarDru said:
They couldn't afford to go the Galapagos islands, so they used CGI effects like Weta did for the Pellenor fields to make the Galapagos islands appear in a mexican desert.
It's not really a question of being able to afford to go to the Galapagos Islands. The govt. of Ecuador, which owns the islands, very stricly controls access and use of the islands, to preserve them without damaging the fragile and unique ecosystems there. People are allowed to go there, but only a limited number each day, only under close supervision, everything has to be left the way it was found, and all trash has to be taken with you when you leave.
 



WizarDru said:
What film in 1997 pioneered naval ship battles using bigatures and CGI compositing?
Titanic pioneered convincing seagoing effects with neither an actual ship or an actual sea. Bigatures are irrelevant. CGI compositing is irrelevant, regardless of whether or not Titanic used a different form of the technology.

Its been done. Several times over the last seven years. Achieving the same end result with a WETA trademark "bigature" will never be as impressive as achieving something that has not been established, or even possible in years past.

You may scoff at the digital Neo and Smith in Matrix: Revolutions, but those effects were literal impossible in 1997. The degree to which they are actually close to appearing real (even if they often don't), is a collosal advancement in effects over just refining tried and true seafaring ship polishing.

And while I wouldn't have included Matrix: Reloaded in the nominations (Revolutions' effects were much better), I was shocked to learn that it was a digital Trinity who crashes through the glass out of the building at the beginning, with Carrie-Anne Moss' face composited onto the body. Filling the screen, slow motion, and it still looks real. But I digress. Revolutions should have gotten the nod (and only a nod, as ROTK easily takes the cake.)

WizarDru said:
Personally, I thought the final showdown between Smith and Neo to be pretty weak.
"I'm not really interested in your opinion, 3PO." :cool:

WizarDru said:
Gollum is the exact opposite. The motion capture technique and the combination of Andy Serkis' acting combined with weta's digital magic made you forget or ignore that Gollum wasn't real. I don't recall MASSIVE winning any awards, but if it did (and it should) it was due to, again, not looking like a special effect. When they show you the seen in TTT where there are NO live orcs as they approach Helm's Deep, and I had assumed they were ALL real...well, that's amazing.
Good, so you do recognize that the Academy isn't "starting to view CGI-based effects as lazy."
 

Some years you look at some of the films that have been nominated and you think about the ones that are not and you wonder what they are thinking. This year I think that there are a number of films that might have made it if the ones that were nominated weren't as strong as they are. It's been a good year for films across the board, IMO.

Tough break for Cold Mountain but one of the reasons I purposefully didn't see it was because I was turned off by the media blitz. It might be a great film but chances are I won't be able to confirm that for myself until it makes it to cable.

Thanks for the info on the water tank, btw.
 


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