The Passion of the Christ

[shilsen]

But I have no clue as to what "G" means.

"G" stands for "General", I think, i.e. unrestricted viewing.

 

[KenM]

Doesn't he have machine guns and other cool weapons too? I see an action movie sequel coming!

Have you seen the "red sleigh down" south park xmas show?

 

[DM_Matt]

Even if you can measure the levels of antisemitism (which there are probably studies for) there's almost certainly no way to do it on a fine enough level to say anything about the impact of a film... You could interview people leaving the Passion and those leaving other films, but everyone who's seen the passion knows there were worries about it promoting antisemitism, and will be hyper aware of their responses. Thus enough noise to blur any useful information.

Kahuna Burger

I happen to be doing some academic research about worldwide public opinion concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, so I've had to look into measures of anti-Semitism for use in regressions.

One method is an index of stereotypes. The Anti-Defamation League, among others, sponsors these sorts of studies. Here are some links to recent reports:
http://adl.org/anti_semitism/EuropeanAttitudesPoll-10-02.pdf
http://adl.org/anti_semitism/European_Attitudes.pdf
http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism/2002/as_survey.pdf

Another method is to deal in favorability ratings for Jews, or questions such as "If your party nominated a Jew for president, would you vote for him/her." Usually these sorts of studies are done with regard to many demographic groups at once.

The Pew center did a study to determine what impact, if any, The PassionOTC had on opinions towards Jews and views regarding Jewish responsability for Jesus' death. Their findings can be found here:
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=209
For the raw results, try here (but it won't tell you much beucase you cant do individual-level comparisons with this data):
http://people-press.org/reports/print.php3?PageID=808

 

[LordVyreth]

well apparently the big surprise is

Spoiler

they've researched a "so called" better version of True Resurrection, coz he comes back a higher character lvl then when he died.

obviously munchkin if you ask me.

~NegZ

No, it's even more munchkin than that. It means that Jesus is obviously a Saiyan!

 

[shilsen]

No, it's even more munchkin than that. It means that Jesus is obviously a Saiyan!

ReallY? Dammit - I was sure that the big DM in the sky had just slapped the half-celestial template on him. Now I've got to change that so I can use him appropriately in my planar campaign

*Runs off to change Jesus' NPC sheet*

 

[Celtavian]

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I'm waiting for video for the film.

Personally, one thing that has turned me off to watching the film is the number of ignorant Christians that make it seem like Jesus went through something unique. Jesus was tortured and crucified, a not uncommon punishment in the Roman empire, most often inflicted on criminals.

It is definitely sad that he was not a criminal and had this punishment inflicted. Evenso, he was not the only person to have been wrongfully tortured and killed in Rome.

I kept reading and hearing all these statements from Christians about what Jesus went through for us, and yet he went through nothing that others of the time had not experienced before. It was injust, but not uncommonly injust.

The big lesson from Christ is the message he shared with others during his life. A good message for the secular and the religious. For the religious, it was the Ressurection that was more fantastic. That is definitely something only a few have experienced, most of them mythical characters, though Jesus may very well have been raised to mythical status by his followers, though he may have been only a man.

Christian ignorance can be very irritating. I still recall a Christian who was offended because Hispanic people named their children Jesus. He seemed to think Jesus was a unique name, when it is a simply a variation of Joshua. I think there are more people who believe but don't study their chosen religion, then believe and are educated on their chosen religion.

 

[CrusaderX]

Personally, one thing that has turned me off to watching the film is the number of ignorant Christians that make it seem like Jesus went through something unique. Jesus was tortured and crucified, a not uncommon punishment in the Roman empire, most often inflicted on criminals.

How many Christians are saying this? I've been a Christian for over 30 years and I've never heard anyone claim that nobody but Christ had ever been crucified throughout history. Especially since the Gospels tell of the two thieves who were crucified with Christ.

Christian ignorance can be very irritating.

Any ignorance can be irritating. You're not really helping to keep this thread from denegrating into Christian bashing.

 

[Green Knight]

For the religious, it was the Ressurection that was more fantastic. That is definitely something only a few have experienced, most of them mythical characters,

Mary Magdalen's mythical? That's a new one on me. And if you're going to invent a person to witness the resurrection of Christ, then wouldn't it have made sense for it to have been a man? I bring it up because back in the day, a woman's word was worth jack and spit. Yet after His resurrection, the first person Christ appeared to was a woman. The other disciples also saw Him, later. And there's no doubting that Peter, for one, was real.

though Jesus may very well have been raised to mythical status by his followers, though he may have been only a man.

Which only works if you discount what Jesus himself said. And it that's the case, then why would someone like Peter willingly sacrifice himself for a cause which he knew to be false? After all, he was there. If he knew it was a load of hooey, why die for something he knew to be untrue?

Christian ignorance can be very irritating. ..... I think there are more people who believe but don't study their chosen religion, then believe and are educated on their chosen religion.

The same can be said of EVERY group, that there are more people who believe in a thing, then actually have any facts to back up their belief. It doesn't begin and end with Christians. And if you believe that, well, I find your ignorance pretty irritating.

 

[D-Man]

Personally, one thing that has turned me off to watching the film is the number of ignorant Christians that make it seem like Jesus went through something unique. Jesus was tortured and crucified, a not uncommon punishment in the Roman empire, most often inflicted on criminals.

The true torture Jesus endured was being a perfect being who had to experience every single sin of every human being, past, present, and future, all at once, and then temporary separation from God ("My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?") because of it. That's what makes it unique. Everything thing you've ever felt guilty for, every sick, horrible thought or action or mistake that you've ever entertained or has ever caused you pain, Jesus got to endure and experience all at once multiplied by the billions of people who would ever walk the earth, just so you wouldn't have to pay the ultimate penalty for it.

That's what makes it unique, and no film can ever be made to properly depict such anguish.

 

[KChagga]

I feel this thread is going to be closed very soon.

originally posted by Green Knight
Mary Magdalen's mythical? That's a new one on me. And if you're going to invent a person to witness the resurrection of Christ, then wouldn't it have made sense for it to have been a man? I bring it up because back in the day, a woman's word was worth jack and spit. Yet after His resurrection, the first person Christ appeared to was a woman.

Here's a question of interest to your statement.
The risen Jesus first appeared to?
a. Mary Magdalene alone (John 20:14; Mark 16:9)
b. Cleopas and another disciple (Luke 24:13,15,18)
c. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (Matt. 28:1,9)
d. Cephas (Peter) alone (1 Cor. 15:4-5; Luke 24:34)

All four choices are claimed in different books of the bible.

Seriously let's keep this to the MOVIE and not about religion. Which I think is going to be impossible.