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The Realms WILL Be Updated!

WotC's Chris Perkins and Mike Mearls both mentioned the possibility of Forgotten Realms updates on Twitter today. A chap called Montgomery Headstrom tweeted at both of them - to Perkins he said "I don't understand why you guys did the Sundering if you weren't going to update the Realms. Can you clarify that for me?" and the Mearls he said "if WOTC isn't interested in updating the realms would corporate allow kickstarter drive to let Ed Greenwood do it?" Both replied to his his comments, confirming that they do, in fact, intend to update the Realms. Thanks to Adrian for the scoop.

Montgomery:
if WOTC isn't interested in updating the realms would corporate allow kickstarter drive to let Ed Greenwood do it?
Mike Mearls: who sez we aren't interested in updating it?

Montgomery: I don't understand why you guys did the Sundering if you weren't going to update the Realms. Can you clarify that for me?
Chris Perkins: The Sundering allowed us to bring back things that the setting had lost over the years. We ARE updating the Realms.
 
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MechaPilot

Explorer
I find it odd that someone thought the realms weren't getting an update. They have for each of the past two editions (and I'd be surprised if they hadn't done it for 2e as well).
 

Ashran

Explorer
Supporter
They just did not tell the form this update will take. I don't remember which article or news I saw on site, but I kinda remember reading the y were not interested in publishing setting books and were looking into new ways to present settings. The future will one day tell us what that means....
 

Dausuul

Legend
I find it odd that someone thought the realms weren't getting an update. They have for each of the past two editions (and I'd be surprised if they hadn't done it for 2e as well).
Yeah, they did it for 2E. That was the whole "Time of Troubles" thing, where the god of assassins died and took all the assassins with him. (Apparently telling people "Convert your 1E assassin to a 2E rogue" didn't involve enough gratuitous PC death. But then, it was AD&D...)
 
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MechaPilot

Explorer
Yeah, they did it for 2E. That was the whole "Time of Troubles" thing, where the god of assassins died and took all the assassins with him. (Apparently telling people "Convert your 1E assassin to a 2E rogue" didn't have quite the right level of gratuitous PC death.)
Thanks for the info. Then that means the realms were updated in 2e, 3e, and 4e. With a record like that I'd be quite surprised if it didn't get an update for the next edition (that is to say the current edition, 5e).
 

doctorhook

Adventurer
Typically vague though; they've made no commitments here whatsoever. "We ARE updating the Realms," is such a broad statement that it would technically remain true even if the only FR plans are for Sword Coast Legends (a CRPG) and few more adventures. Anything set post-Sundering could technically be considered an "update" to some area of the Realms.

I'm sorta frustrated with how few bones they're throwing us lately. I'm enjoying the hell out of 5E and own all of the books so far--I'm practically standing here with my wallet open--and currently I don't even have an specific future releases to be excited about. They have nothing announced on the horizon...and honestly, it's allowing other systems to creep into my bookshelf and erode my brand loyalty.

I don't blame Mearls or Perkins, because I'm quite sure that if they could be producing more content, they would. I suspect this is a development drought: all of the allotted resources to develop and launch 5E have been spent doing just that, and now we get to wait for WotC and Hasbro's budget cycle to assess 5E's success before any money for new development gets doled out. All the talk about "expanding the D&D brand" is just fine, but even there there isn't an inherent commitment to any tabletop format outside of what we've already got.

/rant
 


Guyanthalas

First Post
I was at University Bookstore when R.A. Salvatore was doing a book signing, and I asked him a question about how changes to the D&D rules change his content. (I was inspired because they killed off almost the entire Drow pantheon in preparation for 4e).

Apparently the interview made YouTube. (Its nice to be on a channel other than my own). If anyone wants to listen to the answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qmtUgZ_Wwk
 


lkj

Adventurer
I suspect they are actively developing a number of things. But they won't announce anything until it's relatively imminent. Couple months for a book. Day of release for something like an electronic tool. In the first case, they can cancel something without much public hullaballoo (sp?). In the second, they avoid the problem (ala Morningstar or Mastertools, etc.) where relatively small scale software crashes and burns (which I suspect is a frequent event).

The exception is a large software release (ala Sword Coast Legends) where the level of investment and the partnership is so high that the chances of complete failure are very small. Then they can market it for months. But I also don't think it's any accident that they were apparently developing SCL for upwards of two years prior to announcing anything. By the time they announced it, it was well past any cancellation stage.

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bmfrosty

Explorer
In before someone declares this to be an announcement and then gets angry because of a lack of details at Gen Con.
 

Kramodlog

Naked and living in a barrel
The Realms have already been updated. Factually, they are right. The real question is will a campaign book about that update or that mentions the update will come out?
 


shadow

First Post
Did the sundering change the map of the Realms back the way it was before everything changed in 4e? (i.e. substituting Maztica with that dragonborn continent? Flooding Luiren?)
 

Kramodlog

Naked and living in a barrel
Did the sundering change the map of the Realms back the way it was before everything changed in 4e? (i.e. substituting Maztica with that dragonborn continent? Flooding Luiren?)
Probably, but without an campaign guide, gazetter or update of somekind, we do not know for sure what changed.
 
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ppaladin123

Adventurer
The Realms have already been updated. Factually, they are right. The real question is will a campaign book about that update or that mentions the update will come out?

I just want a single document that explains a. what the sundering is/was, and b. what changes occurred in the pantheon, in the geography of the realms, in the ecology of the realms, etc. Right now there are bits and pieces scattered across novels and interviews and the core books.

The adventures all technically take place after the sundering but I guess they are vague on these details both because WotC haven't actually figured out exactly what they want to have changed yet and because it lets folks port the adventures to other time periods easily. And we are, of course, free to "make the realms our own." But it would sure be nice to know the official reasons why the gods are back, and the status of dragonborn if returned Abeir is gone and all that stuff that folks who care about cannon care about so we can incorporate it into our games.
 

As I commented elsewhere, I think the catch is they have 4 people working on the books, and needed all-hands-on-deck for the core rules in 2014. There was no one to spare working on the Realms. And working on a big update of the campaign setting as vast and detailed as the Realms is a year-long process. So they're likely spending some extra time *really* looking at the Realms, its changes, and brainstorming their updates.

That said, taking some fan feedback would be cool. A survey on the Realms and such.
 

lkj

Adventurer
As I commented elsewhere, I think the catch is they have 4 people working on the books, and needed all-hands-on-deck for the core rules in 2014. There was no one to spare working on the Realms. And working on a big update of the campaign setting as vast and detailed as the Realms is a year-long process. So they're likely spending some extra time *really* looking at the Realms, its changes, and brainstorming their updates.

That said, taking some fan feedback would be cool. A survey on the Realms and such.
I seem to recall they basically implied this already near the time of launch. Was it Mearls or someone else who said they hadn't started working on it yet and were thinking about the best way to do it?

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I seem to recall they basically implied this already near the time of launch. Was it Mearls or someone else who said they hadn't started working on it yet and were thinking about the best way to do it?

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I think that was Mearls.

The "best way" is tricky. Book? Wiki? App? Boxed set? Campaign manager program? One big hardcover or a set of small softcovers?
 

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