The Retaking of Forgehold OOC-4E (Full)

[Charwoman Gene]

No Idea. I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I think it's been well over two weeks. Unless Telsayn dies in this battle, I'm going to have him leave due to a difference of methods over the last kobold. If Vargo comes back I could write him back in.

 

[Shalimar]

This round of rolls went a bit better, a 20! on her Daily doing max and blinding the dragon and a 19 on her action point attack. So far we have done 74 damage, and Angel and Arden have yet to take their first turns.

Velmont, what do you think about the Lead the Attack power vs Bastion of Defense? I'm not sure which one is better, I guess it depends on the Intelligence and Charisma of the Warlord. I'd like to get a Warlord players' perceptions on it.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

This is one pissed off dragon.

 

[Shalimar]

Well, hopefully we can piss it off some more by really nailing it. I hope that next turn people will take advantage of the combat advantege they get from it being blind by spending the action points we have been saving up to pound the lizard into a pudding.

 

[Velmont]

I think it both depend on the circumstances and the Cha/Int of the Warlord. At higher level, Lead the Attack will have a greater effect, as it will help to place mroe daily power successfully, and also, the temporary hit point will have less impact as we gain more hp.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

Hey guys, sorry for the radio silence, I had to visit some friends who just had a baby, so my maptools time went away.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

Sarah, does angel's action (shadow walk) depend on the dragon being blinded? I wll have you delay if that is the case.

Never mind....

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

I'd appreciate it if future talk back to the GM appeared here, not as OOC asides in the IC thread. Especially rules calls. Especially over choices of appropriate skill choices or uses. If it is critical and could require redoing a round to sort... maybe...

So, given fair warning, walking into a lair with a known enemy your characters wouldn't be actively searching? That was my justification. Is passive perception the "right" choice? Maybe. I see your point Mal, I just made a judgment.

For what it's worth, I think the default is always using stealth against the passive perception. It's in keeping with the 4e mentality; The dragon would have made one roll and that would have been it.

You only use active perception if you spent an action doing it.

So as a rule of thumb, if we're not spending actions on perception, it's alway passsive.

PHB 186 description of the skill support this.

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Partial Concealment (shadow walk) and Total Concealment (dragon is blind) do not stack; Angel's shadowwalk don't apply on the dragon this round.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

If I hadn't given it the tactically stupid surprise round, you probably wouldn't have bloodied it before it could get in a good position to breathe.

I do agree with your interpretation, I was just showing the thought trail.

I had just forgot what shadow walk was. And the Dragon wasn't blinded on Angels turn.

I should be posting the maop tonight sorry for the delay.

 

[Shalimar]

If I hadn't given it the tactically stupid surprise round, you probably wouldn't have bloodied it before it could get in a good position to breathe.

I do agree with your interpretation, I was just showing the thought trail.

I had just forgot what shadow walk was. And the Dragon wasn't blinded on Angels turn.

I should be posting the maop tonight sorry for the delay.

No problems, this is one of the quickest games I have ever been in, and you are doing great with it. We understand when real life happens.