D&D 5E (2024) Let's make 5e specific setting, starting with a pantheon

You mentioned the wrong one.

Hieroneous-paladin
Ehlonna-rangers

FR is fairly explicit as well.

Original classes pre 3E.
Please re-read the second sentence of my post.

I do not deny that there are deities in both Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms that track directly to a class. But your point appeared to be that the two worlds were built (in so far as deities are concerned) to have one to one links between classes and deities as a first principle (as in, that is why they were created). I just don't agree with that and believe what I am posting disproves your position.

St. Cuthbert and Pholtus were the first two deities created for Greyhawk by Gygax when he realized his players wanted that type of support (he told the story multiple times, including in his Col Playdoh thread here I believe, and it is referenced on the Wikipedia post about Greyhawk Deities). Neither really tracks to a class.

The original list of Greyhawk Deities was as follows (same link as above):

Good: St. Cuthbert, Pholtus, Heironeous, Ehlonna, Trithereon, Zagyg
Neutral: Celestian, Fharlanghn, Istus, Obad-Hai, Boccob, Olidammara
Evil: Hextor, Iuz, Erythnul, Incabulos, Nerull, Ralishaz, Wastri

The 1983 WoG boxed set increased the deity list to 50 total, which includes all of the deities I mentioned in my original example/post.

As to FR my, admittedly basic, understanding is that the world existed before D&D to allow Ed Greenwood to tell stories. He translated it to D&D eventually, and created some mythology to tie the world together. Amongst the original deities were Selune, Shar and Mystra. Only one of those three links to a class, and it can be argued that Azuth is actually more the god of magic-users than Mystra, since she is magic itself.

Anyways, I am belabouring a point here which is derailing the thread. You can believe what you want.

Cheers :)
 

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