The Shadowfell version of Underdark


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In order to accommodate both the Underdark and the Shadowfell, I turned the Underdark aquatic and made it the domain of the Aboleth and the Kuo-Toa. The Drow I made into feywilde exiles, which they adapted and learned to master necromancy. I haven't decided whether they will be ruled by the Raven Queen or not. I do know that Lolth's demonweb will exist in the shadowfell, in which people are imprisoned and their souls extracted to feed the Spider-Queen. Obviously, I ditched the sado-masochist Shadar-kai

The Duegar will be the guardians of the gates of hell, now corrupted, and trying to undo the imprisonment of their fiendish masters. I moved the Nine Hells to beneath the shadowfell since that made it more distinct than simply floating around in the astral plane with all the other numerous domains.

The entrances to the shadowfell will be places of dark underground caverns which are associated with places of death. Crypts, tombs, ossuaries, barrows and other forgotten places of necromantic power left to fester.
 

Wolfgang Baur? ;)

You could always try looking at it from a different perspective, however. Perhaps in the Shadowfell, the subterranean realm is the core of the Shadowfell, and everything above ground is the named area, the Blight. The Blight being repulsive to the true creatures of Shadow because it resembles the lands lit by the sun on the material plane. Or something like that.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots said:
Death giants are explicitly mentioned as some of the masters of the Shadowfell in the W&M book. How much they resemble the 3E death giants remains to be seen.

Yeah, I thought of Death Giants, but it would be somewhat unsatisfying if "A variety of Giant" was the answer to "Who lives in the Underdark?" for both Feywild and Shadowfell.
 


ferratus said:
I moved the Nine Hells to beneath the shadowfell since that made it more distinct than simply floating around in the astral plane with all the other numerous domains.

Hmm... It would be interesting if beneath the Shadowfell lay Hell, and beneath the Feywild lay the Far Realm. In this variant especially, I like the name "Near Kingdom" for the Feywild - the Near Kingdom and the Far Realm are suitably euphemistic.
 

direkobold said:
Yeah, I thought of Death Giants, but it would be somewhat unsatisfying if "A variety of Giant" was the answer to "Who lives in the Underdark?" for both Feywild and Shadowfell.
But the Fomorians might not be giants any more. My impression of the original Irish legends was that "Fomorian" was a term for a varied collection of creatures that opposed the Sidhe, rather than some specific type of monster.
 

arscott said:
But the Fomorians might not be giants any more. My impression of the original Irish legends was that "Fomorian" was a term for a varied collection of creatures that opposed the Sidhe, rather than some specific type of monster.

I think the fomorians are giants, just not Giants. Death giants and fomorians are both reflections (or "echos") of primordials and their giants.

Irish Fomorians were a race. They were followed by the Fir Bolg, and then by the Tuatha de Danann. There are a variety of theories as to their "real" origins - you can basically pick your own.
 

Fomorians are explicitly a flavor of giants in 4E. W&M clears this up. :) They're the most powerful of the evil fey, and they mention "fomor" as a type of evil fey, implying there might be more of them, but fomorians are definitely big-ass fey with a magical evil eye.

Maybe the Underdark of the Shadowfell is the White Kingdom of the ghouls.
 

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