The value of a wall of iron

[Hypersmurf]

Adamantine.

-Hyp.

 

[Jack Simth]

Adamantine.

-Hyp.

Ay kant spel

 

[darkelfo]

Fabricate

Transmutation Level: Sor/Wiz 5 Components: V, S, M Casting Time: See text Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Target: Up to 10 cu. ft./level; see text Duration: Instantaneous Saving Throw: None Spell Resistance: No

You convert material of one sort into a product that is of the same material. Creatures or magic items cannot be created or transmuted by the fabricate spell. The quality of items made by this spell is commensurate with the quality of material used as the basis for the new fabrication. If you work with a mineral, the target is reduced to 1 cubic foot per level instead of 10 cubic feet.

You must make an appropriate Craft check to fabricate articles requiring a high degree of craftsmanship.

Casting requires 1 round per 10 cubic feet (or 1 cubic foot) of material to be affected by the spell.

Material Component: The original material, which costs the same amount as the raw materials required to craft the item to be created.

Wow. What a cool spell. If you've got the craft skill, this a truly amazing power to compliment it. This is another place where creativity and SKILL should be rewarded.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Creatures or magic items cannot be created or transmuted by the fabricate spell.

Man, that sucks.

"These blankets are selling like crazy! They're so soft and fluffy... what are they made out of?"
"Halflings."

-Hyp.

 

[Jack Simth]

Creatures or magic items cannot be created or transmuted by the fabricate spell.

Man, that sucks.

"These blankets are selling like crazy! They're so soft and fluffy... what are they made out of?"
"Halflings."

-Hyp.

Okay - so the spell doesn't let you KILL a creature ... directly (what happens, though, if you ... say... Fabricate 1 cubic foot of dungeon cieling into a 1 cubic foot stone spike (pointed down, of course) directly over your opponent? Check the range on the spell). Does a corpse still count as a creature? If not, blankets away!

 

[darkelfo]

Okay - so the spell doesn't let you KILL a creature ... directly (what happens, though, if you ... say... Fabricate 1 cubic foot of dungeon cieling into a 1 cubic foot stone spike (pointed down, of course) directly over your opponent? Check the range on the spell). Does a corpse still count as a creature? If not, blankets away!

Fellas,

What do you think the Flensing spell is for? See Complete Aracane pg 108. Remove the skin first with Flensing, THEN use Fabricate if you want halfling pillow cases.

DUH! That's the way everyone does it.

 

[MerakSpielman]

Sure, I'd allow the PCs to make profit from the Wall of Iron spell. Hell, I'd let them do it dozens of times, getting less valuable each time, until they just barely break even.

Then a a few game months later, I'll send them on an adventure to the kingdom's most prosperous iron mining town, where they can see the out of work miners and their starving children.

I imagine the paladin will be very upset.
I bet they won't do it again.

 

[DM_Matt]

Sure, I'd allow the PCs to make profit from the Wall of Iron spell. Hell, I'd let them do it dozens of times, getting less valuable each time, until they just barely break even.

Then a a few game months later, I'll send them on an adventure to the kingdom's most prosperous iron mining town, where they can see the out of work miners and their starving children.

I imagine the paladin will be very upset.
I bet they won't do it again.

That works when demand for both Iron and labor is flat, but its still going to be profitable in a not-so-damaging way in wartime. A mage conjuring up iron right next to facility where they have tons of blacksmiths or next to a shipyard can produce Iron much faster and cheaper than mining and shipping it. Additionally, a lot of the miners would be fighting in the war instead of digging, anyway.

 

[Kelleris]

That works when demand for both Iron and labor is flat, but its still going to be profitable in a not-so-damaging way in wartime. A mage conjuring up iron right next to facility where they have tons of blacksmiths or next to a shipyard can produce Iron much faster and cheaper than mining and shipping it. Additionally, a lot of the miners would be fighting in the war instead of digging, anyway.

And that's one market force adventurers know how to create!

 

[DM_Matt]

Remember also that this is a sustainable and environmentally friendly way of getting iron. I could easily imagine an elven society that ONLY will use conjured (rather than mined) metal, or Druids demanding that a certain society with the capacity to conjure do so instead of mining.