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they were using it, but not licensing their published material under it, unlike eg KPWhat publishers for DnD are not using the ogl? Well prior to this year obviously.
they were using it, but not licensing their published material under it, unlike eg KPWhat publishers for DnD are not using the ogl? Well prior to this year obviously.
This keeps getting repeated in this thread, but it's a straw man. Nobody is saying that WotC is obligated to ensure 3PPs are successful.It's not on WOTC to ensure that 3PPs are successful.
I am awareIt's new technology, a new business practice. There may also be technical issues we don't know about. It's easy to say "Just add a button to import" or "Just add an API". Either one of those require significant investment and ongoing support costs.
is releasing the CC SRD in five languages a profitable venture in and of itself? And yes, I believe the API would be profitable, as I saidWould what you want be profitable for them?
nothing is for free there, except for the part any other VTT can get from the SRD alreadyYet suddenly we’re seeing the idea put out that WotC should? How much money has WotC invested into DnD beyond and the vtt? Hundreds of millions of dollars. And they are just supposed to let everyone else piggyback on that for free?
they are not giving anything away for free, if anything it makes owning the material on DDB more valuable than owning it in eg Roll20, because the former lets you use it in any VTT of your choice (provided it supports that API), while the latter does not, so it would benefit DDB salesWhy? Why would they even consider that? On what planet would anyone expect them to invest hundreds of millions of dollars- and that is what they’ve invested not even counting the millions invested in the 2024 rerelease - and then just give it away?
having an open format would do just that… being the leader in a field also means you can initiate changes others cannot, which is why it is being brought up with WotCI would point out though that all those platforms for vtts are exclusive to each other though. If I buy Pathfinder for Fantasy Grounds, none of that can be used anywhere else. No one else even whispered the idea that other vtts should be cross platform compatible
because they benefit from it, if their VTT is the best and users can freely move between them instead of being locked into one from past purchasesWhy? Why would they even consider that?
This is a great take.I am aware
is releasing the CC SRD in five languages a profitable venture in and of itself? And yes, I believe the API would be profitable, as I said
They might even need one to integrate with their 3D VTT anyway, the difference is publishing it, so others can use it too
nothing is for free there, except for the part any other VTT can get from the SRD already
If you want to get something from e.g. Fizbans, you need to own Fizbans on DDB, having an API does not change that
they are not giving anything away for free, if anything it makes owning the material on DDB more valuable than owning it in eg Roll20, because the former lets you use it in any VTT of your choice (provided it supports that API), while the latter does not, so it would benefit DDB sales
nope. They aren't that efficient. They make a few pennies on the dollar if you look at thier financials. Amazon is just Freaking Big thier profit is because they are so big. They love to sell that story about how efficient they are but everything they've done to get to profitablitly, (which has only been the last 3 to 5 years, has been at the expense of getting the product to the customer quickly. Slower deliveries, more money for prime accounts etc. They are very good at messaging though. don't follow any companies messaging. Always follow the money, it never lies.Yes. But also my big issue with Amazon is their employment policies. But I also know that grinder is what fuels thier efficiency.
I was tempted to put “efficiency” in scare quotes.nope. They aren't that efficient. They make a few pennies on the dollar if you look at thier financials. Amazon is just Freaking Big thier profit is because they are so big. They love to sell that story about how efficient they are but everything they've done to get to profitablitly, (which has only been the last 3 to 5 years, has been at the expense of getting the product to the customer quickly. Slower deliveries, more money for prime accounts etc. They are very good at messaging though. don't follow any companies messaging. Always follow the money, it never lies.
I am aware
is releasing the CC SRD in five languages a profitable venture in and of itself? And yes, I believe the API would be profitable, as I said
They might even need one to integrate with their 3D VTT anyway, the difference is publishing it, so others can use it too
nothing is for free there, except for the part any other VTT can get from the SRD already
If you want to get something from e.g. Fizbans, you need to own Fizbans on DDB, having an API does not change that
they are not giving anything away for free, if anything it makes owning the material on DDB more valuable than owning it in eg Roll20, because the former lets you use it in any VTT of your choice (provided it supports that API), while the latter does not, so it would benefit DDB sales
This keeps getting repeated in this thread, but it's a straw man. Nobody is saying that WotC is obligated to ensure 3PPs are successful.
But even companies like Apple are being forced via legislation to allow sideloading in the EU. It's not a new concept, and it is rooted very firmly in an ongoing and long lasting history of legislation and practices regarding market control and dominance, and the responsibilities that some along with that whether or not you want them, or we want them to want them. It's not as simple or black and white as folks are trying to portray it here, and "it's not on WOTC to ensure that 3PPs are successful" is a simplistic reduction of the conversation.